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Raise the age restrictions to EVE to 18+
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Ai Shun
#41 - 2012-01-16 08:25:36 UTC
Jade Mitch wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
I can't see it making any difference in the current incarnation of EVE Online. Perhaps when they have fleshed out their EVE Universe, added a few more WiS / interactive elements then, yes. But what content can you see them adding in the current version of EVE Online that justifies such a change and risk a number of their subscribers already?

Also, Age of Conan carries no rating at the moment. While the game did a reasonable job of handling more mature content, it is also a generally very immature cesspool.

Not convinced, sorry.


If the content is 'mature', then why call it immature?

If it's immature, then why get upset when children see it?


Have you played the game or are you just after a soundbite?

The game + content is reasonably mature in execution, with several thought provoking themes and quest lines. The player base and their attitude is generally immature with a "lulz boobies" attitude. And frankly, if that is all you want, there are sites dedicated to it.

Having seen it happen, I believe an 18+ age restriction will attract the very immature players that won't be suited to a more thoughtful game like EVE Online.

Valei Khurelem wrote:
The thing is, adults like the example I showed in the youtube video constatly claim they're there to protect the children, when really all they care about is either pushing their own agenda liek that stupid woman did


Kinda like you are at the moment? Take a moment to consider that. You are engaging, through a communication medium, to push your own agenda. The fact that her agenda is distateful to you is why you don't like it. Could you conceive of a scenario where somebody feels the same way about the way you are pushing an unnecessary agenda for EVE Online?
Valei Khurelem
#42 - 2012-01-16 08:41:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
Oh no, I'm advocating the idea that everyone should be allowed to put up whatever they want and create whatever they want without any censorship THE HORROR even that woman would still be able to rant on as she liked just without any power. As for any of my ideas on gameplay changes, I've even posted in that survey to CCP that should they make any drastic changes to gameplay they should make a seperate server for it with the code copied over so anyone who did genuinely enjoy this current version ( hahahahahaha ) would be able to keep playing, that's how I'd do it.

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Having seen it happen, I believe an 18+ age restriction will attract the very immature players that won't be suited to a more thoughtful game like EVE Online.


Really? You think that EVE is a thoughtful game and making the age restriction higher will attract immature players? Immature players? You see this is why I find it so fun arguing with people like you, you make it so damn easy it's unbelievable, have you seen what GoonSwarm or any of the major alliances are like on these forums or some of the oldest players for that matter?

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#43 - 2012-01-16 09:41:53 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Really? You think that EVE is a thoughtful game and making the age restriction higher will attract immature players? Immature players? You see this is why I find it so fun arguing with people like you, you make it so damn easy it's unbelievable, have you seen what GoonSwarm or any of the major alliances are like on these forums or some of the oldest players for that matter?

There is a difference between amusing, sarcastic, meme-laden forum postings and the kind of immature audience that are usually attracted to "adult" games. For example if you actually take the time to read a lot of goon's member's posts, while slightly sarcastic in tone, they're often pretty insightful when it comes to how changes will effect gameplay mechanics, and especially at how proposed changes could be abused.

Having said that, I still don't think the "immature" audience would play Eve, even if it did have that adult content appeal. For the most part immature players in Eve seem to rage quit after a fairly short amount of time, possibly because the fact that they keep exploding makes it difficult to retain the same levels of austere douch-baggery they achieve on games like CoD.

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Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-01-16 11:18:29 UTC
On what grounds?

They are different all across the world:

In The U.S. is a nipple enough to get an 18+ rating. In the Europe it's violence that is an heavier issue, ect, ect.

and it usualy works like a magnet on teenagers.

In it's current state I don't see any reason what so ever to change the age rating, The game mechanics and complecity will make sure those that cab handle it will stay and those who can not will leave.
Bearilian
Man Eating Bears
#45 - 2012-01-16 11:39:06 UTC
Jade Mitch wrote:
when people are forced to act, they refuse

when people are prohibited from acting, they act without limits

when people are free to act, they naturally moderate themselves


i have to respond to this because you obviously havent played in many games that allow complete freedom of speech. yes there would be a majority of people who moderated themselves. but what you said is specically proving my point. out in the world kids are generally "prohibited" from using language. there is a minority of families that dont care or discipline this. you get some 15-19 year old little snott nose, and they cant be stopped. especially against other random players. because, quite literally, they are rebelling and doing what they are not allowed to do.
so yes, i feel language should be in check. most of the people who want the freedom to use language will only use it in a childish way. I would have no problem reading some s*** and f*** every once in a while. but the insults WOULD get out of hand...
Iris Bravemount
Golden Grinding Gears
#46 - 2012-01-16 12:56:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Iris Bravemount
If you want to know what people do without external moderation and total freedom, just have a look at 4chan. (if you don't know it, google it)

By the way, the learning curve of EvE already acts as a teen/child blocker IMHO. It takes alot of patience to get into this game, and this happens to be a quality most immature people don't have.

That being said, the sandbox concept and the ultimate goal of becoming a comprehensive sci-fi game should eventually lead to (some) adult content. As far as I know, this is already planned for the WiS part of the game in the form of strip clubs and the like. The background also isn't shy about the very productive gallentean porn industry.

I dislike the general taboo around sexual content in videogames too, but as a previous post mentionned it, most attemps to overcome it result in either very dumb games focussing only on that aspect, or players (and critics) dismissing all the rest of the game bcs of some adult content (see ME2).

So for the sake of the game's image, I'd rather not have explicit sexual content in EvE.

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