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The Archetect
Toxic Squadron
Northern Coalition.
#21 - 2012-01-15 16:54:44 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Spineker wrote:
yawn retards. As if anyone really cares? Cowards who are scared of their own shadow. Everyone hates cowards.


You say this whilst posting on an internet forum with a fake name?


Stop posting.
Xenuria
#22 - 2012-01-15 17:39:44 UTC
Try and stay on topic...

Has anybody encountered any other foolish myths about Anonymous that I should clarify with research in the OP?

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TonyCandthejets
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-01-16 23:52:34 UTC
So many uninformed derpsters in this thread.
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-01-17 04:23:02 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Xuko Nuki wrote:
You're not anonymous at all Xenuria, are you?

Assuming you know the difference between anonymous and Anonymous I would say you are correct.
I am not very "anonymous" because I do not spend that much time on /b/.
I am however a participant in "Anonymous".


Ooops. Do you really need the US to put pressure on Iceland to pressure CCP into revealing your billing info and/or IP in order to add you to The Database of Potential Malcontents?



Uhhh... What? What are you even talking about? Is this some Alex Jones ****?

Edit: Ohh... I get it. You're one of those people that thinks Anonymous is a terrorist organization. FYI Anonymous regularly collaborates with the FBI.

68.197.99.119 <--- That's me! Come at me Tinfoil wearing bro!


Its not tinfoil, people who protested against the war in Iraq and attempted to educate the public found themselves added to no fly lists and search on sight police lists.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-01-17 19:11:33 UTC
thats it? was hoping for lots and lots more info, i support Anonymous's ideals, united the people can make a difference. at the same time, I do fear what they have shown they can do. just goes to show the internet world is no where near secure.
Barakkus
#26 - 2012-01-17 19:35:24 UTC
Foolish myth: Anonymous is some leet hacker group with smart people in it.
Reality: Anonymous is a bunch of internet ******** children with no social skills who have orange penises from eating cheetos and fapping to porn all day.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Xenuria
#27 - 2012-01-18 01:30:40 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Foolish myth: Anonymous is some leet hacker group with smart people in it.
Reality: Anonymous is a bunch of internet ******** children with no social skills who have orange penises from eating cheetos and fapping to **** all day.



And yet we have toppled dictatorships...

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SpaceSquirrels
#28 - 2012-01-18 01:54:00 UTC
^

I would say the people of libya and egypt actually did that. I'd also be really pissed if I were them at Americans comparing their protests to them.

"Um Hi we actually had a real dictator that actually oppressed us, and tortured us...Some even lost their lives. You did what again? Sat outside in a drum circle? Got maced then fiddled on your macbook?"

"You guys have masks...yeah thats cool our opposition leaders got tracked down thrown in prison, tortured, and then their families had to flee...."

Yeah not really the same.

Hooray for 1st world whitey problems!!!
Xenuria
#29 - 2012-01-18 01:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
^

I would say the people of libya and egypt actually did that. I'd also be really pissed if I were them at Americans comparing their protests to them.

"Um Hi we actually had a real dictator that actually oppressed us, and tortured us...Some even lost their lives. You did what again? Sat outside in a drum circle? Got maced then fiddled on your macbook?"

"You guys have masks...yeah thats cool our opposition leaders got tracked down thrown in prison, tortured, and then their families had to flee...."

Yeah not really the same.

Hooray for 1st world whitey problems!!!



I find your inability to read the OP most frustrating...
To say that there are no members of Anonymous in the middle east is like saying there are no gays in Islam. It's one of those ignorant things people say without thinking about the logic behind such a presumptuous statement.

Anonymous was not only responsible for on foot protests in the middle east but also provided a logistical powerhouse for the opposition. I am not going to go into detail what they did that made them so important, That is what reading the OP is for.

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#30 - 2012-01-18 03:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
I guess some of this type of obsession explains why you can't find the time to work to pay for your college https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55449 .

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Xenuria
#31 - 2012-01-18 03:03:52 UTC
Akita T wrote:
I guess some of this type of obsession explains why you can't find the time to work to pay for your college https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55449 .

Cool

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SpaceSquirrels
#32 - 2012-01-18 03:21:08 UTC
Having studied the Arab spring rather closely last year...(Middle eastern studies class) And knowing who overtly supported and started the online movement (for that matter who and what started it to begin with)...and helped. (Google, facebook). Which helped organize it so people began the actual physical part... (Which is really what overthrew said governments)

I can't recount one news article or direct first person account of anyone crediting anon... or even thanking them. I'm not saying they didn't help or people joined them to help... But uh I wouldnt go over board patting ones self on the back because it wasn't anon or even them indirectly.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#33 - 2012-01-18 09:55:52 UTC
Damn newbs. Totally missing the point.
Barakkus
#34 - 2012-01-18 12:25:32 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
Foolish myth: Anonymous is some leet hacker group with smart people in it.
Reality: Anonymous is a bunch of internet ******** children with no social skills who have orange penises from eating cheetos and fapping to **** all day.



And yet we have toppled dictatorships...


You can't even fix a computer, I highly doubt you can perform and great feats of haxx0rz.
Anonymous is about as useful as Al-Qaeda, they do nothing but claim to do everything.

Anonymous has had nothing to do with **** when it comes to the recent events in the middle east. You can thank the people that live there + a little help from the other countries of the world. A couple of DDOS attacks on various middle eastern government websites doesn't start, help or end a revolution. It doesn't take much talent to do a DDOS either. Turn on computer, download and install botnet software, fap to porn...that's about all it takes. All Anonymous is is another meme from 4chan for the most part and idiots running around in masks at protests because they want to be kewl and leet. It takes approximately 1 hour to write a piece of code to flood another computer with useless packets. Any other hacking they've done has relied on social engineering and use of well known and very old exploits on servers whose admins are too lazy and stupid to patch them, or coders that have absolutely no idea how to code because they got some mickey-mouse degree in web design in 6 months at a community college and have absolutely no clue about writing secure code.

There is absolutely no reason the media should be paying this much attention to them. They're not talented, they're not smart, they're just a bunch of /b/tards running around trying to act important for the most part. Unfortunately the media is about 1000000 times dumber than they are and think they're actually accomplishing something that requires intelligence.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Xenuria
#35 - 2012-01-18 16:11:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Having studied the Arab spring rather closely last year...(Middle eastern studies class) And knowing who overtly supported and started the online movement (for that matter who and what started it to begin with)...and helped. (Google, facebook). Which helped organize it so people began the actual physical part... (Which is really what overthrew said governments)

I can't recount one news article or direct first person account of anyone crediting anon... or even thanking them. I'm not saying they didn't help or people joined them to help... But uh I wouldnt go over board patting ones self on the back because it wasn't anon or even them indirectly.


You are either a decent troll or a total moron. Read the OP...
Anonymous disrupted communications between the dictatorships and their on foot forces, misdirecting them and in some cases sending them into ambushes.

Anonymous was not only a huge logistical boon to the protestors and those in the uprising but was also in many cases there on foot. Another poster ITT claimed that there were no members of Anonymous in the middle east... Could you imagine? Even if you somehow magically changed the past and made it so the thousands upon thousands of Anons coordinating on foot efforts were suddenly not there, I still feel that the logistical efforts of Anonymous would be more then enough to assure a victory.

For you or anybody else to say that Anonymous had nothing to do with the uprisings in the middle east or their subsequent success is not only broadly offensive and ignorant it is insulting to ME as somebody who participating in the uprisings.

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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2012-01-18 16:26:55 UTC
Xenuria, tell Anonymous that Petey says keep up the good work. I agree with your views completely. Unfortunately, my ISP has blocked me from assisting Anonymous in various ways.

Btw, yay Guy Fawkes \o/

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Barakkus
#37 - 2012-01-18 17:28:41 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

Anonymous disrupted communications between the dictatorships and their on foot forces, misdirecting them and in some cases sending them into ambushes.


That's actually complete bullshit, there is no evidence of such that I can see. And Aljazeera's little expose on Anonymous is actually not entirely accurate.

On the other hand the US DoD actually did a bit of hacking of Libya's defense systems, not /b/tards.

Most of the circumvention of various countries cutting their citizens off from the internet was facilitated by other governments, not the /b/tards.

Anonymous had very little impact on what was going on in the middle east.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Xenuria
#38 - 2012-01-18 17:33:26 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

Anonymous disrupted communications between the dictatorships and their on foot forces, misdirecting them and in some cases sending them into ambushes.


That's actually complete bullshit, there is no evidence of such that I can see. And Aljazeera's little expose on Anonymous is actually not entirely accurate.

On the other hand the US DoD actually did a bit of hacking of Libya's defense systems, not /b/tards.

Most of the circumvention of various countries cutting their citizens off from the internet was facilitated by other governments, not the /b/tards.

Anonymous had very little impact on what was going on in the middle east.



Thank you for confirming that you are a Troll

5/10

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Barakkus
#39 - 2012-01-18 17:37:16 UTC
Yeah, when you can't figure out what to respond when you're obviously wrong, the other person is a troll...

/golfclap

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Xenuria
#40 - 2012-01-18 17:43:46 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Yeah, when you can't figure out what to respond when you're obviously wrong, the other person is a troll...

/golfclap



Yup you caught me... There is no possible way I could cut the the very core of your argument... Roll
I mean that would require actual facts and citations from numerous journalistic agencies and organizations... Which I don't have backing me up right?

Dude you are trying WAY to hard.

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