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Upcoming nerf to Mining II modules
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Mutie DaPig
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-13 07:18:18 UTC
Upcoming nerf to Mining Mindlink II modules

Has anybody heard how bad this one will be in the patch??Big smile

Would prefer loss of range over loss of cycle time.
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-13 08:54:30 UTC
What nerf?

(...or is this some underhanded way to try and and drive down the price of the implant on the market? If so, I approve this fine example of market PvP)
Heun zero
MAYHEM BOYZ
#3 - 2012-01-13 10:37:26 UTC
I think he means the warfare modules, not the minlinks since there are not minlink II's

http://www.eveonline.com/en/crucible/features

This is all I know though, because someone else posted this link in adiffrent thread, but I figured you read this much otherwise you wouldnt be asking..
Tash'k Omar
Indefinite Mass
#4 - 2012-01-13 19:04:15 UTC
This is all it says:

CCP wrote:
Tech 2 Module Tweaking
We've been monitoring the new modules introduced in Crucible and we've made a few changes based on usage data and community feedback. Affected modules include several warfare and mining link modules, Triage module and the recently added bomb launcher.
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#5 - 2012-01-13 19:24:04 UTC
Tash'k Omar wrote:
This is all it says:

CCP wrote:
Tech 2 Module Tweaking
We've been monitoring the new modules introduced in Crucible and we've made a few changes based on usage data and community feedback. Affected modules include several warfare and mining link modules, Triage module and the recently added bomb launcher.



I don't see the word nerf there though, they *could* buff Roll
Dusty Meg
Echelon Research
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-01-13 20:59:26 UTC
CCP Ytterbium wrote:

Hey in there, you are not forgotten, just a bit busy with multiple stuff coming in.

Here are the iteration changes planned for tech2 mods:


Triage module II: now provides a 20% capacitor reduction to remote capital armor repairers, remote capital hull repairers, capital shield transfers and capital energy transfers while in triage mode. Doesn't provide any bonus to local repairer/boosters however. Previously the module had little interest to train for, should now be worth the time.

Mining Foreman Link – Mining Laser Field Enhancement II: boost increased from 5 to 5.625%: same reason as above, to keep tech2 boost consistent among all gang links.



Feedback is welcome.



Taken from the test server feedback forum.
The links just getting a boost as the current difference between t1 and t2 is pitifull

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#7 - 2012-01-13 21:53:03 UTC
I thought this at first, but it's significant when you have Mining Director 5.

I'll take a boost, no matter how small, over a nerf any day.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2012-01-14 02:09:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Mining Foreman Link – Mining Laser Field Enhancement

Tech 1 - Current 4.5%
Max Orca: 4.5% * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * (1 + 5 * 0.03) * 1.5 = 58.2% [23,732 m]
Max Rorqual: 4.5% * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * 1.5 = 75.9% [26,390 m]

Tech 2 - Current 5%
Max Orca: 5% * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * (1 + 5 * 0.03) * 1.5 = 64.6% [24,703 m]
Max Rorqual: 5% * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * 1.5 = 84.4% [27,656 m]

Tech 2 - After Buff 5.625%
Max Orca: 5.625% * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * (1 + 5 * 0.03) * 1.5 = 72.7% [25,916 m]
Max Rorqual: 5.625% * 5 * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * (1 + 5 * 0.1) * 1.5 = 94.9% [29,238 m]

Total Bonus = Link Bonus * Mining Director * (1 + Warfare Link Specialist * 10%) * Ship Bonus * Mindlink Implant Bonus
Mutie DaPig
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-01-14 02:34:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutie DaPig
CCP:
Quote:
we've made a few changes


So the Mining Laser Field Enhancement is getting a buff! Any sane player , on hearing the words above would automatically think nerf.

happy days -Lol

My apologies - used the term 'mindlink' when that is an implant duuuhh -sorry
**Also Thanks to Tau Cabalander for the calcs
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#10 - 2012-01-14 20:41:50 UTC
The "nerf" is that instead of doing :ccp: math and just adding 0.5% to the effect, they went back and did real math which adds 25% to the effect on all of the gang links.

T1 vs Old vs New

2.0% -> 2.5% -> 2.5%
3.0% -> 3.5% -> 3.75%
4.0% -> 4.5% -> 5.625%

The 2% bonus links were fine, the 3% and 4% bonus links had gotten the short end of the stick.
Mutie DaPig
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-01-15 14:36:13 UTC
Wish CCP would correspondingly increase the range of survey Scanner II's from 22.5km to 27kmQuestion
Delhaven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-15 15:34:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Delhaven
Mutie DaPig wrote:
Wish CCP would correspondingly increase the range of survey Scanner II's from 22.5km to 27kmQuestion


Changing the Survey skill from a 5% reduction in scan speed to a 5% increase in range would accomplish that at Level IV, and make the skill much more useful to the majority of people.

I've always thought it was one of the more useless skills for mining. The pirates and gankers that hang out around Jita might disagree for their work, but then they might enjoy an increase in range as well.
Mutie DaPig
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-01-15 17:50:25 UTC
Mining Survey Scanners II only requirement is Electronics level II?? Don't understandLol