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Hulk fit for Hulkageddon
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Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#1 - 2012-01-11 11:02:59 UTC
A friend of mine convoed me up and asked what a good way to protect his Hulk during Hulkageddon would be.

My answer (because don't undock is for the weak)

How to beat Hulkageddon:
Monitor local
Watch your d-scanner
Fit as much tank as you possibly can.

[Hulk, Anti-Gank]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Booster II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

Vespa EC-600 x5 <- always launched, set to aggressive


22k EHP, with 170 DPS tank for about a minute and some change.

Not too shabby, really. I REALLY DOUBT a Thrasher will be able to kill your Hulk. Any Battlecruiser on the other hand, will. It's conceivable that you could give a battlecruiser a hard time, but it's not a guarantee.

It will take at least 4-5 Thrashers is my guess to knock out that Hulk, so yeah.

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#2 - 2012-01-11 11:16:47 UTC
Thought miners would just dock up there hulk and pull out there old dusty BS with the minig lazors.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Mercury Maken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-11 11:23:38 UTC
Another good thing to do is to spawn concord in the belt that you are planning to mine in.

It's a good way to see if some one is actively trying to move concord from your belt to gank you, as you will see concord leave the belt your in.

To spawn concord just have an alt or friend shoot your mining character with a newb ship in the belt you plan to mine in and your done.
Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#4 - 2012-01-11 11:30:00 UTC
^ Good one.

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
Lemok Sonji
Lethal Devotion
Escalation Theory
#5 - 2012-01-11 11:45:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lemok Sonji
You don't need any dps tank nor a booster. Just a big enough buffer to handle 1-2 attackers.
After that you just get the hell out and hide to the station until they are gone from the system.

Another option which should be cheaper and plug some of the dps holes you have in your setup is:


[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

That should get you closer to 23K EHP, and higher resists.

Or you can use this:

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Which gives you almost 24K EHP and even better resists, or replace the amplifier with a T1 invul field.


Also still to note:
If they want your ship to blow, it will blow.
Mercury Maken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-11 11:48:23 UTC


"Vespa EC-600 x5 <- always launched, set to aggressive"


My understanding of setting your drones to aggressive would mean that, and please correct me if i am wrong, they aggress people who just target you? Meaning someone could just target you and then your drones would aggress, leaving you to suffer the wrath of concord?
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#7 - 2012-01-11 13:27:54 UTC
Mercury Maken wrote:


"Vespa EC-600 x5 <- always launched, set to aggressive"


My understanding of setting your drones to aggressive would mean that, and please correct me if i am wrong, they aggress people who just target you? Meaning someone could just target you and then your drones would aggress, leaving you to suffer the wrath of concord?


It doesn't work like that. The aggressors have to actually shoot at you for the drones to react. I think there use to be a bug regarding aggressive drones and can flipping, but I think CCP fixed that.

Adapt or Die
astara989
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-01-11 13:53:57 UTC
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
Thought miners would just dock up there hulk and pull out there old dusty BS with the minig lazors.


That is an option, it nearly halfs your yeild, Risk vs. Reward I guess.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#9 - 2012-01-11 14:09:12 UTC
The problem is, you assume people won't throw 4-5 thrashers your way. Thrashers are cheap, people will easily throw tons for a single kill.

Best want to tank for hulkagedon... Get in your indy hauler and run courier missions to raise your standinds for the week. Provide no targets. Don't give them a challenge, they will rise to it. Just dock up, do something else, and enjoy the time off.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#10 - 2012-01-11 14:37:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
I still think the BS with mining lasers is your best option, kinda hard to gank a even shield fit armor BS in hi-sec.
Its better to get less yield for a week then to lose hulks, also they will still have plenty of Bots to gank in there hulks any way.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
astara989
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-11 14:57:27 UTC
Can get a rokh up to 120k EHP and 891 M3 ore a min with a 916m3 cargo. About 60-65% of the yield of the above anti-gank Hulks and far harder to pop, as well as cheaper.
Skorpynekomimi
#12 - 2012-01-11 18:06:27 UTC
My fit will be the exact same as always. However, the tank will be much improved by the addition of a station around it.

My official plan for hulkageddon is 'go back to running missions'. I can get minerals off that for some production, and I doubt my haulers will be targeted anyway.
I mean. I COULD tank my Wreathes, but I can't be arsed. They can't carry enough stuff to be worth fitting a tank to them. My mammoth is tanked, but only to protect the 30mil of cargo rigs.
Or I can do some wizardry, and go mine in null for a bit in a covetor, if I can be arsed to mine at all.

Economic PVP
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-01-11 23:48:28 UTC
Ohgod hulkageddon will be bloody with the new tier3 BCs
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-01-12 00:02:45 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Ohgod hulkageddon will be bloody with the new tier3 BCs


One can only hope... Twisted
ariel jade
Terran Colonial Guard
#15 - 2012-01-19 20:16:25 UTC
Well the is always the option for a mining corp to have a fleet of ships setup out of sight to warp in and defend the mining ships durning an attact.
Umega
Solis Mensa
#16 - 2012-01-19 21:15:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Umega
Your ehp is wrong..

Plug your holes first.

I am someone, and probably not the only one.. that scans the fit of my exhumer targets so I know how cheap I can go on guns/ship n ammo type, if I see a hole in the resist.. I'm going to exploit it with ease.

And DCU is huge.. if I'm solo ganking (mind you I only go for macrobot miners unless its HG time).. I'll skip the person, unless it's a bot I really want to pop. But very, very, very few bots I seen use DCUs.

But no fit is safe. None. If myself or others really want to pop you.. we will. Different ship, setup, more ppl.. whatever it takes.

EDIT: Tip on OP fit. Your em hole makes for less ehp, by about 1500ish when up against say EM rounds of a nado. If you take off the 2 T2 SSEs and replace with T2 therm and EM shield amps.. your overall rainbow ehp is higher, your passive ehp-regen is higher, and your biggest 'hole' is kin type at 77ish%. Kin being the option matar alpha can't punch with force like the other 3 dmg types.

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Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#17 - 2012-01-20 03:35:14 UTC
ariel jade wrote:
Well the is always the option for a mining corp to have a fleet of ships setup out of sight to warp in and defend the mining ships durning an attact.


Not going to work considering the time it takes to lock the aggressor, the amount of alpha the aggressor is putting out, the time and distance needed to travel in warp to reach the target.

Adapt or Die
Marsan
#18 - 2012-01-20 04:11:48 UTC
ariel jade wrote:
Well the is always the option for a mining corp to have a fleet of ships setup out of sight to warp in and defend the mining ships durning an attact.


That's just plain stupid.

1) There is no way a fleet could warp there in time.

2) What is the point. The aggressor is losing the ships any way.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#19 - 2012-01-21 01:00:07 UTC
I herd that if u fit 2x Gisti B-Type Small Booster, it makes you hard to kill.
They cost a bit, but will save you many times over in Exhumer Losses....


Here is a good fit:
Hulkaggeddon Permatank Special

3x T2 Strips

2x Cap Rechargers II
2x Gisti B-Type Small Boosters

2x Cargohold Expander II

Rigs:
2x T2 Cargohold Optimization
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#20 - 2012-01-22 02:59:37 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
I herd that if u fit 2x Gisti B-Type Small Booster, it makes you hard to kill.
They cost a bit, but will save you many times over in Exhumer Losses....


Here is a good fit:
Hulkaggeddon Permatank Special

3x T2 Strips

2x Cap Rechargers II
2x Gisti B-Type Small Boosters

2x Cargohold Expander II

Rigs:
2x T2 Cargohold Optimization


Seems legit.

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