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Why we cant warp to empty space in EVE
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#61 - 2012-01-12 08:29:13 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Hah and here I thought that telling newbies to mine was the worst thing you could do to them. "Fly forever away from everything and go do something else." Great intro to EVE that.


I think you'll find that there's a distinction without a difference between telling newbies to mine and telling them to quit.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-01-12 08:34:03 UTC
Janis Ezra wrote:
I wonder why its not possible to just press a warp button, configurate a range, and just warp wherever you want?
FiS feels so linear, everything just happens in certain areas which are/look the same in every system. It feels you are flying in an endless tunnel.

Opinions?


http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/Poseidon-Manual.pdf


not exactly what you're asking for, but it will make you a deep safe spot.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

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Ron Jobs
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2012-01-12 09:04:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ron Jobs
Guillame Herschel wrote:

If you're a player from before the 20AU nerf, you certainly have bookmarks that allow you, in some systems, to warp to a safe within the 20AU wall, that is nevertheless beyond the range of any d-scan from any celestial object.

Can't make those bookmarks now.


There was nothing like a 20AU - Nerf.
All CCP did was putting Safespots that are more than 4 or so AUs away from the Sun than the outermost planet or object was closer to the sun.
They did that, when that method of overshooting or slingshoting warps got fixed.
You could fit some small ship that was warping very fast (take a covops with fast-warp rigs) and put as much mass on it as you can (plates). Warp somewhere between two spots, close to the point where you would start to deaccelerate, log off. then login back immediately.
Since you'd logged off, ships sublight navigation routines took over, your slow agility due to the plates was slowly braking you down before returning to thepoint you initially wanted to warp to, and then making you do your emergency-logoff warp.
with the initial slow braking down from warp speed, you'd be about 70 to 90AU behind the point you'd initially initiated warp to.
Bookmark, repeat. Got you about 2kAU per hour away from the sun.
Thats essentially the Poseidon-Method that got fixed years ago.

(Fleet-warping a unsuspecting Freighter to a point 2000AU away from him, at .7 AU/sec == Fleet member NOT amused)

CCP fixed the logoff-deaccelerating-behaviour and moved all spots behind the treshold closer to the sun.

But they never created a limit that would prevent anyone to go again beyond this "not further than 4AU out than the last planet or object is", since there is still a method to get as far as 50AU away from the sun in any random direction in less than 10 minutes work, provided you have the right ship with the right fit.
Janis Ezra
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#64 - 2012-01-12 11:01:22 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:


http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/Poseidon-Manual.pdf


not exactly what you're asking for, but it will make you a deep safe spot.


An 11 page guide how to warp to a certain point which is not visible in space.
See why I did this thread?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#65 - 2012-01-12 11:05:25 UTC
Janis Ezra wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:


http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/Poseidon-Manual.pdf


not exactly what you're asking for, but it will make you a deep safe spot.


An 11 page guide how to warp to a certain point which is not visible in space.
See why I did this thread?


That guide is also deprecated. It doesn't work anymore.

There are good ways to make strong safespots indefinitely. We don't need perfectly safe safespots createable without any effort.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon