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Renarla
#1 - 2012-01-10 07:34:08 UTC
Did anyone else forget that these exist?
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#2 - 2012-01-10 08:31:42 UTC
Nope Use kitsunes all the time they are what a rook wishes it was for serviability.
Sentinal is a blast!!!, and Hyena's are always welcome in missle AKA drake fleets last I heard.
Realy the only one thats meh is the Keres, poor intercepter with a broken legCry

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Liam Mirren
#3 - 2012-01-10 10:02:18 UTC
Renarla wrote:
Did anyone else forget that these exist?


We haven't, CCP has.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#4 - 2012-01-10 11:03:26 UTC
Can Jam most things in my Kit :)

Love it.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#5 - 2012-01-10 14:04:51 UTC
EAF all have lock ranges less then their T1 counterparts. They are also the largest frigates in the game. The Kitsune is 58 meters. It needs an award as it us now larger then the Thrasher!

The Keres has two bonuses related to cap usage. The Kitsune does as well. The sentinel and hyena each have one. If CCP wrapped those into a role bonus it would give room for new bonuses geared to survivability.

Lastly, the hyena still has the old interceptor bonus. That is a pet peeve of mine.
vorneus
Hub2
#6 - 2012-01-10 19:34:20 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
EAF all have lock ranges less then their T1 counterparts. They are also the largest frigates in the game. The Kitsune is 58 meters. It needs an award as it us now larger then the Thrasher!

The Keres has two bonuses related to cap usage. The Kitsune does as well. The sentinel and hyena each have one. If CCP wrapped those into a role bonus it would give room for new bonuses geared to survivability.

Lastly, the hyena still has the old interceptor bonus. That is a pet peeve of mine.


Pretty loltastic that the Kitsune has a larger sig. than a Thrasher.

EAFs need major love - this is no secret and I'm sure CCP are aware of it. Hopefully a rework is somewhere not to far down the line.

-Ed

This one time, I like, totally did some stuff.
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#7 - 2012-01-10 19:47:10 UTC
I have EAFs on my skill plan. More as a completionist thing than anything else. Trying to get my skills to where I can fly every sub BS ship and all the T1 BSs. I'm sure they'll buff them... eventually. I'll be ready when they do!

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Pulgy
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-01-10 19:52:08 UTC
What are you talking about. I use my keres all the time, love that little thing.
Btw if you're trying to use it as an inty of sorts you're doing it wrong.
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Valea Silpha
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-01-11 13:06:36 UTC
The kitsune is definitely a nice ship to have rolling around with you in a small gang. Way less risky than a falcon (ie when it goes pop it doesn't hurt your efficiency too bad) and its fast enough to dodge the worst off things that might get flung at it. Also, since it doesn't jam as many targets, its less likely to be annoying enough to get shot at. Nice frig.

Hyenah is essentially an inty that has bonuses to webs not points, and its nice enough as a change up to flying ceptors a lot. Its not superb but its alright. As someone else said, they are good for drake gangs and similar.

The sentinel is alright, but I don't like how close it needs to get, and TDs while alright aren't THAT useful most of the time. Just not THAT good.

The keres is alright, although strictly as a dampner boat in an anti-ewar or anti-logi capacity rather than as a long range point (its too slow). IIRC it damps more per module than any other damp boat and that has to be worth something. They have their uses, but I think that most of the time a kitsune would be a more general purpose ship (same as falcon > arazu).

Since the dessie changes, yes they should have some changes to their bonuses and such like. Maybe a role bonus for their ewar rather than their ship bonuses to keep them rolling. Maybe a few tweaks to a few other stats. Get them a little more lock range for sure, and maybe even more ewar range all round to make them more survivable.

Like most things, ccp tossed them in game and then moved on and they deserve another look at to get them really rocking, but I don't think that without making them radically overpowered they won't ever be anyones first choice most of the time.