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Thulium

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Mookie Quantico
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-01-14 11:31:16 UTC
WTB "trusted source"...

Roll

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-01-14 11:38:05 UTC
Nothing to see here. Buy ice products.

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Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-01-14 12:41:24 UTC
Mookie Quantico wrote:
WTB "trusted source"...

Roll




You can trust me im a carebear Bear

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#24 - 2012-01-14 13:31:10 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Last time I saw this thread it was claiming Plex BPOs would be going in and that they'd make heavy use of Thulium.


Wow, so I'd better spend every ISK I have buying up Thulium at any price, right?

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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2012-01-14 19:36:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Falin Whalen
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who said Thulium was going to spike. I guess it's pretty serious.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-01-15 00:49:37 UTC
Thulium is not mexallion. You can't buy it all. Price will not spike.
If you have bought thulium, my advice is to sell fast.

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Xtoveruss
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-01-15 16:07:17 UTC
thullium is the rarest R64 ingame. Yet its price is fare lower than dispro or anything else. It only can go up
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#28 - 2012-01-15 16:55:35 UTC
Xtoveruss wrote:
thullium is the rarest R64 ingame. Yet its price is fare lower than dispro or anything else. It only can go up


Unless, for example, it ceases to be the rarest R64 in the game.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#29 - 2012-01-15 17:00:49 UTC
Xtoveruss wrote:
thullium is the rarest R64 ingame. Yet its price is fare lower than dispro or anything else. It only can go up


It could be the rarest turd in EvE, yet it does not mean anyone would want a turd.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-01-17 02:05:28 UTC
Sell naw

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Xtoveruss
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-01-18 07:48:14 UTC
moon distribution

look at how many thullium moon there are in eve. Its the rarest moongoo ingame yet it has the lowest price.... it only can go up!!
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#32 - 2012-01-18 11:03:43 UTC
Xtoveruss wrote:
moon distribution

look at how many thullium moon there are in eve. Its the rarest moongoo ingame yet it has the lowest price.... it only can go up!!


There's a candle bar called "hanging man" and one called "gravestone". They are those that happen when someone gets outplayed at the markets and is left with a bunch of overpriced, useless stock.
Max Flipper
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-01-18 12:28:24 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Xtoveruss wrote:
moon distribution

look at how many thullium moon there are in eve. Its the rarest moongoo ingame yet it has the lowest price.... it only can go up!!


There's a candle bar called "hanging man" and one called "gravestone". They are those that happen when someone gets outplayed at the markets and is left with a bunch of overpriced, useless stock.

Can you link an example? If you feel like you could label it with "Xtoveruss".
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#34 - 2012-01-18 14:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Max Flipper wrote:

Can you link an example? If you feel like you could label it with "Xtoveruss".


Hanging man

Gravestone

Notice that in modern western notation they are respectively more known as Inverse Pin Bar (IPB) and Pin Bar (PB).
Nex apparatu5
Blackwood Co.
#35 - 2012-01-18 21:33:22 UTC
It's nearly tripled in price and is still rising.

Buy now before it hits 10k/unit
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-01-18 22:50:49 UTC
It is a scam - sell fast!

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Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-01-18 23:53:29 UTC
You both wrong

SEND IT TO ME

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#38 - 2012-01-19 19:00:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Max Flipper wrote:

Can you link an example? If you feel like you could label it with "Xtoveruss".


Ok I had some minutes to provide you a graph showing the Thullium price and how even with just the EvE market graph you can gauge what's going on in a market. I will not cover the many other aspects you can easily extrapolate from the graph, they are covered in detail here.


Despite the fact that EvE graphs are not proper candle bars, the price "yellow dots" upper and lower "barbs" may be approximately read as such. It's of paramount importance noticing that context is all. Therefore the same identical candle could be useless when located in the middle of a range, could say "market exhaustion" at the top of a trend but also "time to buy" if at the bottom.

How to read the graph:

I marked the "gravestone doji" bars with "1", in purple. In EvE we don't have candle "bodies" otherwise we could further separate the real gravestone dojis (thin to null body) from the "shooting stars" (small body). They tell somewhat different stories.

I marked the "hanging man" bars with "2", in cyan.

I marked a bar with "3" (green) that really seems an hanging man but it's not. The context (at the local bottom of price) tells it's a so called "hammer". In modern analysis it's known as "continuity pin bar".


Detailed explanation:

1) Gravestone dojis and shooting stars are still pin bars (confusing, eh?) that show *inversion*. How do you know? Simple. They are above previous bars and their "upper barb" (known as shadow) is very long, indicating lots of sellers => strongly going against the rising trend => possible inversion.
Expecially "tall" bars (taller than the ones right before them) enforce the probability of inversion. This is the case of the first bar. In most cases these bars are not tall and thus they cannot be trusted to safely invert price (therefore we need a so called retracement, covered in other threads of mine).

See the second bar of this family? It's tiny and unusable to go short without a further confirmation.

TLDR: when you see something like these candles at the top of the high of price, you might want to sell.


2) Hanging men are easier to check, they are usually weak-ish bars at the top of price. They exactly represent the guys who read the forums and bought at the top of the price despite price was beginning to fall (the lower "barb", known as shadow).

The two cyan examples require no further explanation, easily spotted. The Donchian Channel makes them even easier to spot, they touch it on the upper limit.

3) That is a proper "hammer". Still a pin bar but context says it's at a local low. The position of its shadow (below) tells that there are many buyers pushing up and this pushing is concord with the ascending trend => continuity bar.

In a RL market a quite daring trader would have bought it for profit. He'd put the stop loss below it (white line marked as "4") and the first take profit at the next important price level (the one right on top of it, usually deducted by a past price stopping there). In the subsequent days, price would fall instead of rising but - as it's known - a pin bar is valid until no other bar goes below the tail (this is why the stop loss is there, in case the candle is invalidated it means you did not understand the market and should really leave it).
Therefore that trader would have stayed in the market and price would have risen (arrow marked as "5") till that small purple candle marked as "1" would have been reached and thus profit be taken.
Now, this would have been a risky trade (close to the top and right after a big trend inversion bar) and would probably give a very bad risk vs reward but still... it works as example to show what price does.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-01-19 19:06:43 UTC
Sell before it is too late!111

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-01-21 12:19:48 UTC
Good! As you see it is starting to crash now! Time to sell like mad cow!-)

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