Crime & Punishment

It is time.

I never understand ppl that cry about ppl making ISK on way or another, you better cry to CCP about margin trading cos if you set 3 characters in trading hubs amarr, jita and galente you are making ISK even Chriba can’t handle.
So what you gona doo blow up Jita 4-4 ?
Like someone say ‘natural selection baby’.
To help you out only need 3/6 pilots vaga + 100 MWD bump out of range logi and look the fleet die.
But youre action means **** cos there are still hundred of boots making ISK 24/7.

Me too brah, Hi 5 :D

BTL PUB - save the mom gank fleet forming need ecm boats......................they can aford to do it too

Why the hell am I not on this list? DAMN YOU BTL I WANT ON THE LIST WITH THE OTHER COOL KIDS! Don't make me come over there and ECM boat your ass.

Yeah, pretty much. OP better know what he's doing otherwise he's gonna get owned and outplayed by the bears. Getting popcorn ready.

Incursion denial flet consists of up to 20 griffin ships and 5 blackbirds

ECM suicide the unsuspecting targets, the LOGI get ECM'd everytime theres confirmed reps going on.
Suicide blackbird ECM ships target the main DPS. The rage tears in local as our wrecks fill their gun ports, Laugh at them.
CCP the butterfly effect can explain this:


1) You create massive risk free isk farming method and you say you want to create an isk sink.
2) Boys and Girls of EVE are shocked that you would be sooooo hypocritical
3) The children of EVE work to your first objective to make it an isk sink


Also, in future:
if you want to do this OP do it with gusto. Set a corp up with 100% tax rate, description should read: "Anti-Incursion highsec Pirates"

There seems to be some confusion here.

It's concluded that the best way to beat incursions, is to take down the mothership so it can't be just left there so people can farm sites.

All that "griefing" business is out the window. It's childish and CCP will end up treating it like brats misbehaving in the sandbox. Those who you would claim to be "greifing" can brag that they will replace their losses in a mere hour or two, and a good lot of them would be correct.


On the first day of incursions as they presently are, I did what thousands of others did and took a mission drake into a site and lost it in such a manner that had there been an audience, I would have had to nail the doors of the house shut and burn it down with everybody inside.


The field was littered with dead drakes, domis, fleet stabbers, you name it - with faction and deadspace mods too.

But even a salvage rifter with nanos and MWD could get one-shotted so much for scap-dogging.

But look at it now: people have this figured out. Losses are low. Yes there appears to be a balance around the logi - I've seen logis go down and before the group escapes two or three battleships are lost.

All the "griefers" have to do, if you really want to deny ISK, is finish off the mothership.

This means that all you need is a team big enough, and has it's act together enough, to go in, take down the mom, get out. Period. There's not even PVP involved... until those grinding the sites get peeved and dec the "mom killers" or send mercs at them, something they got the cash to do.

I don't know how many ships it takes to take on that site. I've taken rookie ships to the mom site to have a look and it's as close to an NPC gate camp as you can imagine. If CCP had NPC ships doing camps instead of leaving it to other players, and set them up like that mothership site, they could close off entire sections of space.

But enough people with the right combination of ships and skills, and all you need is a mom take-down team that gets the job done rapidly. Incursion over.

I say this because it's bothersomely bad mechanics to let that thing sit for days while grinding sites. It just plain feels like a bad mistake. Do we let one last ship in a level 4 mission or a sanctum stay alive and tank it until more show up and ship-farm those sites? Can a sleeper combat site be strung along like that? No. (though I have seen sleepers respawn in sits much to my shock and surprise).

Be an adult about this, think about it, get a good crew together, and it's doable.

Doubtful as they could easily implement a 100 corp decshield to make wars against them cost five billion a week. 100 not enough, then maybe 200 will do it, or 500.

Or maybe they just want the fights.

Will mercs even do anything to help carebears now when carebears are whining the entire merc wardec system to death?

Why I no make list???

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