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Incursions: CCP is too slow - now we will act

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Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#661 - 2012-01-23 01:31:14 UTC
Admire your work till now. Hope you can keep up. +1.
Muttrah
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
What Could Possibly Go Wr0ng
#662 - 2012-01-23 01:35:17 UTC
Oh ya, like when you ******* were exploiting the moons and it was all fine? Yeah, good points, idiots.

You are delusionnal. OFC incursions in empire are easier to take down than POS defended by powerhouses.
Leeme Lone
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#663 - 2012-01-23 01:44:40 UTC
Im hoping CCP does nothing, if they bend the mechanics everytime a bunch of whiners threw up some posts and general grief.. then god be with us... especially from a 10'er /facepalm.. I am aware it has happened in the past, with different succes, luckily it dosnt happen so often and usually carries heavy consideration.

At some time this will be exploited as well and the carebears will just join your corp to make ISK, but im sure they can find something else to do as they have before.. i highly doubt they will go to a lower security status, just because someone said so.

Lets see what the times brings, either if CCP makes some changes or the incursion killers gets bored..
Luckily i got a few 5.0 alts to go suicide with for pvp moneys during griefing periods anyways, but im sure a lot of new players, returning players and most likely others, are inside their account management to freeze their accounts right now, lets hope for a solution before all the highseccers making all the pewpew equipment has quit.
Hoxothul
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#664 - 2012-01-23 01:45:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Hoxothul
Muttrah wrote:
Oh ya, like when you ******* were exploiting the moons and it was all fine? Yeah, good points, idiots.

You are delusionnal. OFC incursions in empire are easier to take down than POS defended by powerhouses.



Since when have there been moon goo in wormhole space? :O
Muttrah
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
What Could Possibly Go Wr0ng
#665 - 2012-01-23 01:56:40 UTC
Never heard of Alts? You are funny.

And the POS exploit was WAY before WHs existed. Nice try. It was a NON-legit income, and you did nothing to stop it. This time, LEGIT income making is frowned upon? You guys are hard to follow. CCP did have to intervene to stop you from making illegal isk, remember?

Take HQs for example, think its around 35-36M per hour or so, while plexes can give you 1B and up fairly easily.

Then again, idiots with too much time in their hands.
Lysaeus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#666 - 2012-01-23 02:05:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Lysaeus
once again...

Isk injection and materials to sell to other characters are entirely different types of transactions and have drastically different effects on the economy.

HS incursions do not present any substantial risk to the players as concord will intervene when anything significant is done against them.

finally, I do not understand why you are arguing against people completing the content as it was intended rather than allowing 2 power blocks to metagame their way into maintaining a perpetual isk faucet.
Hoxothul
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#667 - 2012-01-23 02:07:12 UTC
Muttrah wrote:
Never heard of Alts? You are funny.

And the POS exploit was WAY before WHs existed. Nice try. It was a NON-legit income, and you did nothing to stop it. This time, LEGIT income making is frowned upon? You guys are hard to follow. CCP did have to intervene to stop you from making illegal isk, remember?

Take HQs for example, think its around 35-36M per hour or so, while plexes can give you 1B and up fairly easily.

Then again, idiots with too much time in their hands.



So delusional and misinformed, it's really rather amusing.
Muttrah
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
What Could Possibly Go Wr0ng
#668 - 2012-01-23 02:14:20 UTC
Hoxothul wrote:
Muttrah wrote:
Never heard of Alts? You are funny.

And the POS exploit was WAY before WHs existed. Nice try. It was a NON-legit income, and you did nothing to stop it. This time, LEGIT income making is frowned upon? You guys are hard to follow. CCP did have to intervene to stop you from making illegal isk, remember?

Take HQs for example, think its around 35-36M per hour or so, while plexes can give you 1B and up fairly easily.

Then again, idiots with too much time in their hands.



So delusional and misinformed, it's really rather amusing.


So CCP didnt act to make it stop? WHs were present back then? It was not an exploit? I did 1 night of HQs, and was making 31M every 45 mins. I run complexes and often get 1B+ in loot. But right, I am uninformed.

And Lysaeus, I am in favor of those who are completing the content as it was intended, what I am against is brick messing with legit content when all these guys were exploiting the towers when it was possible. I said all, lets say many.
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#669 - 2012-01-23 02:35:22 UTC
Muttrah wrote:
Take HQs for example, think its around 35-36M per hour or so, while plexes can give you 1B and up fairly easily.


Nullsec plexes don't have omnipotent all-knowing space police protecting the people running them

Also if you can make a billion ISK an hour running nullsec stuff, why are you wasting your time posting your drivel on here when you could be out there playing EVE Online: A Bad Game and making mad spacegold in the process
Muttrah
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
What Could Possibly Go Wr0ng
#670 - 2012-01-23 02:41:15 UTC
Used to run them, and compared to all the BS I saw, it is legit.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#671 - 2012-01-23 02:42:05 UTC
Another great fleet, another great time. Thanks Krissada and Darius III for this great player-driven live event. This is the stuff that makes the game great.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Braelyn
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#672 - 2012-01-23 03:16:46 UTC
I am not entirely sure CCP intended incursions to be farmed quite as much as they have been, once the mom has spawned. +1 to you guys for stopping this isk faucet from turning our sandbox into a mudtrap.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#673 - 2012-01-23 04:22:06 UTC
Fully support this.

Farming incursions no end is bad from a RP perspective anyway. Kill the damn mothership if you can.

As for the no-rep fleets. Well thats griefing. But that has always been part of Eve. Doesnt mean you have to like/support them, feel free to note the guys and take revenge.

Aside from that,
i will watch with some amusement.
Callous Jade
Dockturnal Bromance
#674 - 2012-01-23 05:09:11 UTC
Muttrah wrote:
Used to run them, and compared to all the BS I saw, it is legit.


Lemme see if I got this straight. You are really mad about something that happened a long time ago (moon goo faucet?) because noone stopped it. Now you are also really mad about something that is hardly related (faucet?) because people are stopping it? Yet you also claim to have no real current knowledge of either situation...("used to run them"/lol RED Legion)

Come back when your clue is delivered.
Tiye Q
SOLAR MESSIAHS INC.
#675 - 2012-01-23 05:24:42 UTC
Dograzor wrote:
I fully endorse this service/product/suggestion or w/e it is, more tears more fun.

Leetist bears must be reminded again that there should be significant risk for significant rewards. Twisted


...another grand display of cognitive dissonance.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#676 - 2012-01-23 05:35:42 UTC
I like that after all the efforts to disrupt high sec incursions that have been employed, simply doing a little bit of PVE proves the most effective.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Endeavour Starfleet
#677 - 2012-01-23 05:37:33 UTC
Krissada wrote:
*cries while holding her golden award*

First I would like to thank these wonderful people from Kill it with fire, Bricks, Skunks and of course those hardworking people from C&P that showed up in our channel to fight alongside with us.
*wipes tear away*

This could not have been done without you *sops* and by all means this is definitely not the end of it. We shall continue our crusade and hammer some sense into CCP's game and the head of these mindless incursion runners.

If an incursion spawns today then feel free to join in with us on either

a. Taking it down.
b. Causing an immense amount of grief with suicide fleets.

To all those who had no faith in our ability. Well have you seen what we have accomplished so far? Threadnoughts everywhere, drama and tears everywhere and last but not least no incursion anywhere in highsec! Big smile


Ok here is the deal. Yall are FAR too slow in taking them down.

It took until well after Euro Primetime for yall to get started. That allowed many people to get their Incursion running in for the day and thus were not affected.

Do it right next time! Have FCs form fleets as soon as The mothership is spotted. Better yet people should be forming once the bar reaches halfway because that means the bears are in position and it wont be long.

Otherwise BTL and TDF leadership will just wait you out and wont lose much support among the members.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#678 - 2012-01-23 05:43:11 UTC
Starfleet, you're not in charge of this ****. We'll expend exactly the amount of effort we want to expend. We're not going to alarm-clock ****. We're not some ****** renter alliance.

Also, you're an annoying douchemouth.

Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity
TriaSsiiCx
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#679 - 2012-01-23 05:51:18 UTC
hey this is basically krissadas message, and i like it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI&ob=av3e
i just dont get why you let those players die by not repping them. thats sorta ****** up. noy trying to cry here, but taking it to that level, idk.. i was with u about turning off this isk faucet, trust me its a logical idea.
however i was out when i heard about those BS getting griefed.
im not even supposed to be here as im only 7 months old with wayy less than 10m sp under my belt and no xp...
but ya was hoping to put my message out there and see what you folks feel about it Straight
Tiye Q
SOLAR MESSIAHS INC.
#680 - 2012-01-23 05:52:24 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

Otherwise BTL and TDF leadership will just wait you out and wont lose much support among the members.


That is going to happen regardless.

This latest exercise in hi-sec griefing won't stand the test of time. It will fade.

Someone should point out that while the so-called "tear extractors" are carrying the flag of "internet spaceship economists, and incursions are free isk, and the game should be played with a certain level of risk because I said so,etc..." they are happily making lots of isk killing mom sites. Apparently that piece of information has gone unnoticed or intentionally ignored by both sides.