Crime & Punishment

Oh you may swarm the mom site. Tho you may be surprised at what awaits you this time. Might be quite fun indeed. And for those who do try to bust the sites. Do enjoy your blacklisting.

I felt a disturbance in my Eve, as if a million desperate carebears cried out at once......

BTW if you are serious about busting the mom sites because of my posts I hope you don't accept any kind of bribes. I would hate for BTL to not luv me more because they had to only pay an extra 500M today to spam their fits.

Honestly, Darius, you sound just as bad as any politician I've ever heard get busted and try to talk his way out of his burning paper bag full of dogshit. Instead of making any remote attempt to defend your position you instead try to discredit and insult your opponents position. Being American I'm VERY familiar with political corruption, power tripping control freaks, and whining crybabies when their power starts to faulter.

I dont think you have the slightest clue how transparent you really are, or how shortsighted and ignorant you seem. If people are making tons of ISK, then that means that production, trading, couriers, and miners, are simply going to get more for their hard earned work. True hard earned work. Not the hard earned work of sitting on a gate camp for hours on end. Not the hard earned work of figuring a new way to get someone to flag themselves too you. This entire line of tear driving is nothing more then a "People arnt flying in my nullsec routes anymore" temper tantrum.

On a further note, your almost violent reaction probably means that Endeavour hit a nerve. I dont think I've seen a response in this thread yet with so much force and energy. I've seen people react like this, when they want to deny the truth and turn the focus off of themselves.




I would hope that at the very least the so called "Leadership" upholds a certain level of maturity, and ethics, as it were, in the demonstration of there assigned responsibilities. No, they dont have to be saints, but they should be nothing less then the highest example of an honorable, honest, and fair player. While their are some honorable pirates, for the most part, pirates are sickly, low, selfish, greedy, arrogant jerks, who's favorite thing in game is a completely unfair, one sided slaughter fest.

The incursion farming makes people money without venturing into nullsec, so the pirates are crying cus there not making money off ganking defenseless transport ships and young players that can barely fly the small ship they are in. Wah.

Just on a personal note however, I have to agree that the elitism with incursions is rather daunting and overwhelming. Most of what gets posted in BTL Pub, I barely understand the shortened terms and notations, let alone will I ever get a chance to participate in them most likely. Do you hear my crying every day about how my game experience is destroyed by the pirates or the elitists? No. I still find ways to enjoy the game. The difference is, I can enjoy the game without ruining it for others, it seems to me that the pirates encouraging this type of behavior, cannot.

Am I the only one who finds it horrible pathetic, whiney, selfish, and arrogant to cry like a newborn child when your ability to destroy other peoples game experience is diminished? I cant gank stupid newbs cus they wont come into my nullsec hunting zone! WAH! WAH! WAH!

Honestly, I wouldnt be even remotely surprised if half of the pirates currently working to raise their security status to go grief the Incursioners wind up joining them and making better money then they did picking on helpless targets in nullsec. It's indicative of the type of people who gain joy from other peoples displeasure.

Good people help others and work together. Jerks only care about themselves, they dont care if they harm others. Evil people actually care and enjoy hurting others. Simple psychological truth. Whine and cry and pose behind almighty pseudo reasoning all you want, but it's a fact of life. Some people are just evil.

EDIT: Oh, and before I leave the door open for someone to yell at me about "Confusing a game with real life" I'm not. While Eve is just a game, the people who play it, and their underlying (and transparent) psychology is very real.

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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12141549

all of that can be achieved by Removing 1 energy transfer :)

total loss 1 mach+1 nightmare +1 mael
(mael was mine and insurance covered it i had no mods on it except invuls shield ext etc i lost 20m but gained a nice amount of isk from their wrecks


also what you can do to kill all logi's 6 tornado's, 2 on each Logistics pilot 6x60(hull+fitting)=320m
gank the logi's and then, you can shoot other people if concord hasn't arrived yet if they have you can sit in your pods to watch the other Pilots die. Rinse and repeat if you have a orca

note for this to effectively work you need to be able to get atleast 2 shots. note having a alt scoop up wrecks works nice also

if they have 3 logi you use 2 on each if they have 3 you use 3 on each simple :)

Dont forget to overload because 1x2 shots wont pop a well fitted logi

Honestly? You're only pissed cuz you're an elitist. Well, "Tom Cruise", I don't really care about your fears, cuz who the hell boasts crying to CCP? If younger players get the opportunity to earn real ISK instead of grinding level fours for years, and this is a problem, maybe you should address more pressing concerns, for example, your tears resulting from feeling you've been wronged. Grow up, quit, or an hero. And shut up. Can't forget that last one!

Me being elitist? Mate take a look at all your incursion bear buddies. They are all saying that incursions currently are really tough for the lesser-PUG fleets to get into. All the elitism and competition in incursions are kicking them out.

Oh ****. Did I just ruin all your arguments using carebear arguments!?

Its a game, CSM was elected by virtual players. And still they do not have to answer to F*** all if they do not want to.
Its not they were elected President of the US and have to answer to your desires.

Initially i was gonna write a wall about assumed personalities, but then i realised, you're prolly too full of yourself to acknowledge it anyway. Its nice that you prolly just finished studying psychology, and now crusade to lecture the EVE community. This is not the real world, but from your words it seem like you haven't realised it yet. People can act how ever they bloody want, CCP are the ones who decides to allow it or not. Not some self-righteous prick like you.

And I am sorry to laugh in your direction, but you seem to think that its the production and industrial players that benefits from Incursions. It is sure as hell not the Supply and Demand that dictates the pricings these days. When CCP decided to let the ATMs spit out a continues stream of never ending Isk, they messed up the economy for all except the Incursion runners, since they are the ones camping the ATMs like a Snickers at Fat Camp. I dont want to see Incursions gone, but the Isk output needs to go down. Anyone trying to argue that earning more in a near-risk free environment vs high risk environments are bonkers and just greedy bastards in my eyes. How can that possibly be fair?

I'll answer that, its not. Ever heard of "the bigger the risk, the greater the reward"? Well it gone from EVE Online right now. Production and Industrialist doesn't need Incursion runners. They were doing fine even before that. What they can't live without are the NS/LS/WH-space inhabitants, who are the ones that actually buys all of their T1s and mods, because they actually loose them. Maybe you have spendt to much time in Incursions that you actually didnt realised that.

What my personal goal is here with making Incursion runners die, and killing MOMs, is to actually put some work and effort back into a lost event. People like BTL will screw over the newbies even if we are not there. Because how can a T1 fleet compete with the BTL Fleet of Scrubs. Hopefully but limiting the availability of Incursions, CCP will realised that something is wrong here.

I love how this topic has spiraled into little more than childish rants between both sides.

A CSM that acts out and demonstrates a complete lack of maturity. The OP who is crying over nothing. And tons of people trying to act as if they're fighting the good fight here.

As if these same mechanics don't apply to people in low sec and null sec that also farm incursions and make tons of ISK doing so.

Please stop acting like this issue is relegated to high sec players alone.

Of course no CSM disagree, CSM job to represent ALL player, but only represent ALL player in their chair. "

Oh look, only one in each chair - and we all from nullsec! 4q carebear!