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"Crucible: did we get it right?"

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Atticus Fynch
#1 - 2012-01-09 19:11:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Atticus Fynch
This survey flashed across my login screen but disappearred too quickly for me to click on it.

Where/what is the link to this survey?

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Romla Yatolila
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-09 19:14:18 UTC
It was at the side of the most recent newsletter, link to survey here
http://crucible.questionpro.com/
Valei Khurelem
#3 - 2012-01-09 19:18:17 UTC
Answering it now myself, I hope everyone writes "Get rid of the nex store" in the features bit because I am.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-01-09 19:21:16 UTC
I put "Ship spinning" under current activities.

Dodixie > Hek

Valei Khurelem
#5 - 2012-01-09 19:22:13 UTC
LOL :D

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-01-09 19:23:43 UTC
The highlight of Crucible has been watching dessies pop dramiels. The rest is just icing.
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-01-09 19:26:44 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Answering it now myself, I hope everyone writes "Get rid of the nex store" in the features bit because I am.

Why should anyone do something just because you did it?

I personaly think the NEX store is brilliant, it will allow casual players to obtain items
they may not have time to grind for because they have jobs that pay real money that
they are more than willing to give to CCP in exchange for saving them from the grind.

Valei Khurelem
#8 - 2012-01-09 19:30:32 UTC
Soulpirate wrote:
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Answering it now myself, I hope everyone writes "Get rid of the nex store" in the features bit because I am.

Why should anyone do something just because you did it?

I personaly think the NEX store is brilliant, it will allow casual players to obtain items
they may not have time to grind for because they have jobs that pay real money that
they are more than willing to give to CCP in exchange for saving them from the grind.



BURN THE HERETIC!

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Atticus Fynch
#9 - 2012-01-09 19:35:22 UTC
Finished it.

Very good questions.

I suggest if you want EVE to progress in the direction you want it to, dont troll the survey.

BTW: Pay attention to the order of the multiple choice replies. I am used to "positive" choices being listed first then progressing to "negative."

In this survey, "negative" responses are listed first followed by "positive."

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#10 - 2012-01-09 19:42:36 UTC
I stated that they should at least be hitting up a major feature every expansion at least, and should cycle down major new features to once a year instead of some of the previous twice a year in some cases.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.

Hainnz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-01-09 19:52:22 UTC
Crucible was far too conservative imo, especially for an "expansion". They need to shake things up good and hard.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-09 19:54:05 UTC
they got some stuff right but they are still along ways of from being able to pat themselves on the back and say "job well done".

sov 0.0 is still a terrible system
faction warfare is still broken
mining system desperately needs a massive overhaul to make it interesting again and counter bots
0.0 systems should be allow more than one outpost.... perhaps even move some outposts to a single system for 0.0 capital trade hubs to be formed and then leave the rest of 0.0 feel like remote parts of space
moons still need rebalancing
Poses are still crap looking and very weak vs today's megablobs & dread/super cap armies - time for modular poses that look more like small stations
establishments still need to be completed
0.0 DED plexes need to fixing so they actually drop nice stuff thus making worth bothering to do.
Some regions need true sec adjustments.... Providence being one that has absolutely no decent true sec systems
Drone poo needs to be scrapped & replaced with bounties to make mining a profitable career option again
Bounty system in its current form is completely pointless
War dec system is too easily circumvented

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.

Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
#13 - 2012-01-09 19:55:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jimi Crackcorn
Soulpirate wrote:
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Answering it now myself, I hope everyone writes "Get rid of the nex store" in the features bit because I am.

Why should anyone do something just because you did it?

I personaly think the NEX store is brilliant, it will allow casual players to obtain items
they may not have time to grind for because they have jobs that pay real money that
they are more than willing to give to CCP in exchange for saving them from the grind.




You're so right. Maybe real life should implement the ability to use isk in the real world.

It will allow casual real lifers to obtain items they may not have the time to work for
because they have jobs in Eve that pay real isk that they are more than willing to
give to Real Life in exchange for saving them the work.
Ai Shun
#14 - 2012-01-09 19:55:37 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
This survey flashed across my login screen but disappearred too quickly for me to click on it.

Where/what is the link to this survey?


Do you get the email newsletter from CCP? It might be worth checking your spam filtering settings / subscribing to it. It has the link to the survey and is another mechanism for them to communicate with us.
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-01-09 19:58:28 UTC
Jimi Crackcorn wrote:
Soulpirate wrote:
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Answering it now myself, I hope everyone writes "Get rid of the nex store" in the features bit because I am.

Why should anyone do something just because you did it?

I personaly think the NEX store is brilliant, it will allow casual players to obtain items
they may not have time to grind for because they have jobs that pay real money that
they are more than willing to give to CCP in exchange for saving them from the grind.




You're so right. Maybe real life should implement the ability to use isk in the real world.

It will allow casual real lifers to obtain items they may not have the time to work for
because they have jobs in Eve that pay real isk that they are more than willing to
give to Real Life in exchange for saving them the work.

Dude, you blew my mind. Shocked
CCP Loktofeit
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2012-01-09 19:59:10 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:


I suggest if you want EVE to progress in the direction you want it to, dont troll the survey.


Definitely. After all, you never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it. Trollskin doesn't help us achieve that desired level of understanding, and it certainly doesn't have that comfortable supple suede feel that genuine human skin has. It's actually rather chaffing if you walk around in it for any significant length of time.

If this proves to be a good channel of feedback then I'd really like to regularly do these types of surveys to add to our arsenal of player input tools.

BTW, every once in a while we post reports of results from previous surveys. You can check them out in the User Research section of EVElopedia.



o7
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#17 - 2012-01-09 20:01:05 UTC
I predict my skin is rather itchy and may cause some allergic reactions and should only be worn when its cold outside.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.

Ai Shun
#18 - 2012-01-09 20:01:56 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:
BTW, every once in a while we post reports of results from previous surveys. You can check them out in the User Research section of EVElopedia.


That's good to know, thanks. It will be interesting to see the results of this survey.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#19 - 2012-01-09 20:08:36 UTC
now since we saved you thousands in focus group sessions and marketing research whats our reward? Pirate
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#20 - 2012-01-09 20:12:00 UTC
Morganta wrote:
now since we saved you thousands in focus group sessions and marketing research whats our reward? Pirate


Hopefully another Crucible instead of Incarna 2.0 Shocked
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