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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#1 - 2012-01-09 18:09:30 UTC
I am wondering.. there is lots of talk about high sec incursions and stuff. They are farmed, basically risk free and pay out a lot.

Some say its to much ISK for high sec, some say they are an incubator for a new breed of lemming care bears etc..

At the end of the day there are a lot of people enjoy doing them, farming, till the last minute, while watching TV.

Now the question is, why is there no corp out there specialized for killing the mothership early as possible? i am sure this would create a few friendships and is certainly more entertaining than shooting hulks at belts or pods at the jita gates...

posting in crime and punishment

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#2 - 2012-01-09 18:12:45 UTC
Nerf high-sec Incursions rewards

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#3 - 2012-01-09 18:17:15 UTC
that was not the topic

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-09 18:19:15 UTC
if you knew your stuff you'd create fleets to somehow stop them from killing the mothership at all

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Krissada
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2012-01-09 18:24:54 UTC
Would you like to join us on our adventure then?
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#6 - 2012-01-09 18:25:45 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
if you knew your stuff you'd create fleets to somehow stop them from killing the mothership at all

yes but isn't this inferior on the tear extraction scala compared to closing an incursion in the first few hours?

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Officer Nyota Uhura
#7 - 2012-01-09 18:32:55 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
if you knew your stuff you'd create fleets to somehow stop them from killing the mothership at all

yes but isn't this inferior on the tear extraction scala compared to closing an incursion in the first few hours?

They're incommensurable: One creates a Vesuvius of rage and the other a Rhone of tears.
Barakkus
#8 - 2012-01-09 22:09:25 UTC
Bienator II wrote:

Now the question is, why is there no corp out there specialized for killing the mothership early as possible?


There was, the people involved got bored and farm incursions themselves anyways, the concept died off, you're late to the party by like 5 or 6 months.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#9 - 2012-01-09 22:52:39 UTC
Barakkus wrote:

There was, the people involved got bored and farm incursions themselves anyways, the concept died off, you're late to the party by like 5 or 6 months.

they got bored doing HQ sites and they are now farming incursions instead? this somehow does not make much sense to me.

Anyway, its probably to much work compared to hulkageddon or similar events in the long term.

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Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#10 - 2012-01-09 23:06:54 UTC
Officer Nyota Uhura wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
if you knew your stuff you'd create fleets to somehow stop them from killing the mothership at all

yes but isn't this inferior on the tear extraction scala compared to closing an incursion in the first few hours?

They're incommensurable: One creates a Vesuvius of rage and the other a Rhone of tears.


^^ poetic description of madbears. For the record Bienator II, the only thing more fun than shooting hulks is watching the tears flow in local - trufax.

Solo Rifter since 2009
Barakkus
#11 - 2012-01-09 23:22:17 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
Barakkus wrote:

There was, the people involved got bored and farm incursions themselves anyways, the concept died off, you're late to the party by like 5 or 6 months.

they got bored doing HQ sites and they are now farming incursions instead? this somehow does not make much sense to me.

Anyway, its probably to much work compared to hulkageddon or similar events in the long term.


Search a little and you'll find the thread on the subject, plus many tears from the guys that run the big incursion channels.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
J Kunjeh
#12 - 2012-01-09 23:39:50 UTC
This: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55792&find=unread

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
Barakkus
#13 - 2012-01-09 23:45:18 UTC
J Kunjeh wrote:
This: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55792&find=unread


Nah, there's another really long thread on the subject, like really long.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
J Kunjeh
#14 - 2012-01-10 01:11:58 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
J Kunjeh wrote:
This: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55792&find=unread


Nah, there's another really long thread on the subject, like really long.


Oh, no, that was for the OP...

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2012-01-10 15:36:02 UTC
Just get a properly setup fleet (I think you need 80ish to hit the isk sweet spot and stand a chance) into the MOM site and try to kill it

BTL and TDC will form up a fleet to come kill it to deny you and anyone else the isk.. it's in their charter.. keep doing it, and you'll annoy them pretty quickly and they will lose the monopoly they have on MOM site loot.. also kills the incursion and another won't spawn for 24+ hours.

easy, provided you can get enough people together, in decently fit ships and organized enough to *actually* take down the site.
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-01-10 15:42:02 UTC


Why is everyone so mad about incursions?

Would you like a kitten?

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#17 - 2012-01-10 17:11:34 UTC
Zixie Draco wrote:


Why is everyone so mad about incursions?

why not? And no i don't want to be a kitten.

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Barakkus
#18 - 2012-01-10 18:53:55 UTC
Zixie Draco wrote:


Why is everyone so mad about incursions?


Someone didn't get an invite when xing up in incursion pub with their crap ass tengu/cnr/maelstrom/abaddon/megathron so now they're butthurt me thinks.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Officer Nyota Uhura
#19 - 2012-01-10 18:55:41 UTC
Zixie Draco wrote:
Why is everyone so mad about incursions?

Zixie asks the right question.
That question haunts me too.
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2012-01-10 19:26:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Chandaris
why are people made?

too much reward for not enough risk in highsec incursions, especially vanguards.. a pack of 10 barely literate drooling monkeys can make 100 million an hour easily.

(now that being said i'm not mad about it, hell i do it.. funds my pirate lifestyle.. but, it's imbalanced..)
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