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No.

And bring back unprobable.

Obvious trolling thread. His opinion is the exact opposite as indicated here

Why do people do this?

How is doing nothing griefing?

The fact is that CCP loses allot of subscriptions because of that...

It doesn't matter you take a system and have the sov of it, Some ships can enter it and stays cloaked for Days while you are unable to do anything ( Fighting back, Mining, Rating anything ).. While this is happening all industrial players stop playing... they wont put their Hulks in the field to get ganked... So the game become boring for them, and as this happens frequently and there is nothing that can be done, they stop playing.... the price of minerals rise... the price of all ships and modules rise... it get more difficult to replace a ship.... and then we get less pew pew... This way cooling down the game, reducing its effective fun...

About the sand box, I'm not a carebeer, I lived on WH-Space, I took down some POS and territories, I mined on Hi-sec Null-sec and Low-sec, I did all forms of PI exploration (WH, Hi-sec processing, Null-sec, Low sec) I already participated on Roamings on Low-sec, also cloaked roaming. Also I can fly all sorts of cloaked ships including Industrial and T3... Also I usually do recon operations and scout operations probing the way, for Known space navigation and Wormhole navigation... Also I had produced for T1, T2, T3, and capital market. So, everyone have a different experience playing EVE, and my fun in this game is to explore all aspects of the game. What I can say is that the game is not only PVP, it needs an industrial base, and everyone have its role, THIS IS A SANDBOX.

So i'm just saying, a way to fight cloaked ships is good not to me nor to you, but to the game!

AFK cloaking and hot drops give so little risk to the attacker for how effective it is. It needs a nerf.

There is NO POINT in cloaked ships if they can be scanned down.

Either advocate for the removal of cloaks entirely, or stop whining.

The idea of probing a cloaked ship kind of defeats the purpose of a cloak. I do think there needs to be a counter to the cloaked system setters, but I don't think CCP should break it like that. Maybe something to the effect of while active, the cloaked ship won't regenerate cap, and the cloak it self takes 2% of your max cap every 60 seconds. This will give 50 minutes of cloaked time if you cloak with 100% cap. 50 minutes is more then enough time to find a noob in a hulk, and stop the annoyance of people that cloak, warp to a safe, align to nothing, and go to bed.

To the whole loosing players thing, there's 500 systems in this game, and 1,000's of ways to play. GET THE F*** OVER IT!

I'm going to copy/paste this from the previous thread:

Here's what'll happen:

The cloakers will whine about how nullsec is safe, and how afk cloaking is a counter to that.
Then wormholers will come in and whine about how it breaks wormholes.
Then they'll suggest either no local, delayed local or removing cloaked ships from local.
Then I'll point out how that completely breaks the risk/reward ratio of current nullsec.
Then some arguing back and forth'll ensue, with lots of namecalling.
Then, nothing will come of it.

There, I just saved you maggots 15 pages of drivel.

Nope.


That's funny. So there's no such thing as awoxers, never anyone getting ganked because they didn't pay attention for a few minutes or seconds, etc. I can undock and go afk for hours upon hours and expect to come back to a ship instead of a pod in a station?

Right.

The last time I took a loss while ratting was when I was in delve. Incidentally, that was also one of the last times I ratted, because it's much more profitable/less stressful to do a vast majority of things in hisec rather than in nullsec.


Who's presuming?

Read the CSM minutes that were posted.

CCP is looking at a dedicated ship that will be able to find cloaky ships. Now won't that be fun?