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Help me with my stealth themed character
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The Faceless Khanid
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-08 19:34:10 UTC
I am training myself into stealth as a specialty. I've become dead set on flying stealth bombers, covert ops scanning ships, and eventually (long way down the road) covert transport ships, recon ships, black ops.

Right now i'm flying a kestrel, for lack of anything else missile related to play with. I am very excitedly counting the days until I can get into my first bomber (which will probably be the manticore), but I have a few months until that is feasible. I've looked at some corporations who specialize in covert operations, but most of them want you to be bomber-ready upon joining. So, while I still have some time on my hands solo (don't want to join another corp just to bail when my bomber finishes training) I would like to get an idea of what stuff I can be doing with my specialization.

Currently I do a lot of flying around lowsec space practicing bookmark making and evading gate campers, but the money is pretty scarce except for the odd wreck full of nice t2 modules that I can scoop up and run back to market.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-01-08 22:44:31 UTC
The Faceless Khanid wrote:
I am training myself into stealth as a specialty. I've become dead set on flying stealth bombers, covert ops scanning ships, and eventually (long way down the road) covert transport ships, recon ships, black ops.

Right now i'm flying a kestrel, for lack of anything else missile related to play with. I am very excitedly counting the days until I can get into my first bomber (which will probably be the manticore), but I have a few months until that is feasible. I've looked at some corporations who specialize in covert operations, but most of them want you to be bomber-ready upon joining. So, while I still have some time on my hands solo (don't want to join another corp just to bail when my bomber finishes training) I would like to get an idea of what stuff I can be doing with my specialization.

Currently I do a lot of flying around lowsec space practicing bookmark making and evading gate campers, but the money is pretty scarce except for the odd wreck full of nice t2 modules that I can scoop up and run back to market.


You might want to consider a learning corp like EVE university, or Red vs Blue/Faction Warfare in the interim.


Anyway, you'll be training missile support skills, so the missile line of Caldari ships (Kestrel, Caracal...) will be great for you. The covert ops/scanning skills you're likely to get anyway are good for exploration. Mag/radar exploration sites are a great way to make ISK without needing significant combat skill investment.
The Faceless Khanid
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-01-08 23:18:27 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:

You might want to consider a learning corp like EVE university, or Red vs Blue/Faction Warfare in the interim.


Anyway, you'll be training missile support skills, so the missile line of Caldari ships (Kestrel, Caracal...) will be great for you. The covert ops/scanning skills you're likely to get anyway are good for exploration. Mag/radar exploration sites are a great way to make ISK without needing significant combat skill investment.


I did consider joining the eve university, but i'm holding off a while on joining a player corp until I have my stealth bomber skills ready. If I were accepted into a corp for covert operations i'd have to leave whomever I was with and I don't want to look like a fickle person who leaves after a few weeks for no reason.

Definitely like the caldari ships and currently fly the kestrel a lot. In terms of exploration sites though, I haven't been able to find many as my astrometric skills are fairly low. I have astrometrics and the related skills at III currently and using a probe-bonus frigate (heron) I still miss a lot, despite watching several youtube videos on how to probe effectively. The good news is that some of the sites seem to come up automatically? I'm not sure how they differ, but these pirate bases have been amusing to plunder while i'm out and about.
Fairhand
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-01-09 08:16:19 UTC
Eve Uni will actually *expect* you to leave once you are happy with your Fleeting and PvP Skills. That is what they are there for - a Training School. They will not expect you to have trained stealth skills before joining either.

Eve Uni are so often under WarDec that they are an excellent small-to-medium-gang PvP training place. You will learn fleet discipline, pvp patrols and so on. On the rare occasion that they are not at war you can practice your scanning and anomaly exploration.

Once you are happy that you have your stealth bomber skills properly rounded out you can go join a suitable corp without any backwards regrets. Eve Uni will consider their job well done if you had a good time and gained experience with them.

Of course, you may end up staying with them... they do need stealth pilots to gain intel and scan too...
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-01-09 09:44:23 UTC
The Faceless Khanid wrote:
Kahega Amielden wrote:

You might want to consider a learning corp like EVE university, or Red vs Blue/Faction Warfare in the interim.


Anyway, you'll be training missile support skills, so the missile line of Caldari ships (Kestrel, Caracal...) will be great for you. The covert ops/scanning skills you're likely to get anyway are good for exploration. Mag/radar exploration sites are a great way to make ISK without needing significant combat skill investment.


I did consider joining the eve university, but i'm holding off a while on joining a player corp until I have my stealth bomber skills ready. If I were accepted into a corp for covert operations i'd have to leave whomever I was with and I don't want to look like a fickle person who leaves after a few weeks for no reason.

Definitely like the caldari ships and currently fly the kestrel a lot. In terms of exploration sites though, I haven't been able to find many as my astrometric skills are fairly low. I have astrometrics and the related skills at III currently and using a probe-bonus frigate (heron) I still miss a lot, despite watching several youtube videos on how to probe effectively. The good news is that some of the sites seem to come up automatically? I'm not sure how they differ, but these pirate bases have been amusing to plunder while i'm out and about.


The sites that pop up automatically are cosmic anomalies. They are combat sites, much like the "unknown" sites that are not wormholes, but they have a vastly reduced chance to escalate or give a faction spawn.

As said above, it is expected in any training corp that one leaves eventually.
Xi 'xar
Rift Watch
#6 - 2012-01-09 09:50:33 UTC
You might want to consider looking at the agony unleashed courses and give them a try.

http://www.agony-unleashed.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:PVP_University/COVOPS is a good example.

As to isk, take a salvager along when running around lowsec (even if the salvager is offline). You will sometimes come across T2 / T3 wrecks in lowsec and they can provide a decent amount of isk.

http://herdingwolves.wordpress.com/
The Faceless Khanid
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-01-09 12:30:20 UTC
Ah, I hadn't realized some corps were around literally in the hopes of training new pilots. That is quite a neat concept.

I suppose I'll have to give them a closer look after work today. Thank you again for the information people. Looking forward to seeing you in space. (Hopefully with my rookie ass is cloaked Twisted)

Cheers!
Santiago Fahahrri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-01-09 13:07:00 UTC
Salvage is a good way to make ISK while flying stealth/scout/recon. There's wrecks all over the place - often near gates which makes them dangerous to get (that's the fun part, right).

As a long range goal, if you want to maintain some independence - you might look at the Pilgrim. As a solo recon ship it's fairly unique in it's versatility. It has the tank to handle deep 0.0 ratting solo, enough drones to handle PVP or PVE, it can actually handle PVE while in a PVP fit, and can fit an expanded probe launcher - allowing for combat probes. The only downside is it's a bit slow, so a good gate-camp has better odds of catching it if you make a mistake.
Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#9 - 2012-01-11 11:43:40 UTC
Bombers can be quite fun solo in nullsec hunting ratters! Congrats good sir for having a goal in eve already! Never lose sight of it, because you have actually chosen a worthwhile endeavour!

And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.