Intergalactic Summit

It's only paranoia if they aren't out to get you, and, well, of course the Amarrians are.

We were well aware of the reaction such a raid could produce. It was no mere whim.

This is so very disappointing.

I do hope Ushra'Khan is assisting with the incursion fights, because thanks to this, we'll likely be waiting longer for that facility to produce whatever it is they're working on.

Before you question my faith in CONCORD, don't. Just don't.

I would venture a guess that the work being done here is kept secret because Capsuleers cannot be trusted as a group. Individually, sure, but as a group, disseminating vital information regarding the war with the Sansha is strategic suicide. Between Nation sympathizers, spies, loose lips, and even pure stupidity... there is no way going public about the work being done there would be a good idea.

We Capsuleers have our role where we are most useful in the war. Fighting. Brute force among the stars.

Our failing is our complete inability to keep (or respect) classified information. This should be plainly evident by your blundering advances into DED classified facilities.

Nation would know everything we know about that facility within a matter of hours. Telling us is a bad idea. I am frankly glad they held you off long enough to purge their archives, because it means Nation won't have access to what materials you've put at risk.

I can only hope the setback they've suffered thanks to your actions does not put the entire cluster at extreme risk.

I would assert the opposite, it was an Amarrian facility under guard by CONCORD. DED forces should not be used to defend Imperial assets, and CONCORd officers should not be under the command of Imperial forces, which given that the base Commander was piloting an Imperial Issue Apocalypse would seem to be the case.

If CONCORD is to fulfill its role, it must maintain neutrality. And that includes operational control of its own forces.




Incorrect assumptions. We are not members of the Arek'jaalan project, it is they who CONCORD saw fit to warn off from the area. We simply went in to conduct our own investigation.

Secondly, we engaged the Amarian military forces there, an action I feel well justified in given our state of war. The DED forces intervened, but I won't deny that I believed that they would. Regardless, I repeat my assertion; DED forces should not be used to protect Imperial assets. That is the duty of the sovereign power.

Thanks!

For all the Amarr loyalist capsuleers intent to accuse in this forum rather than give useful information:

We invite you to find superior CONCORD assets and technology under the control of Matari, Caldari, or Gallente personnel.

Find them.

The Sansha threat is a threat to ALL nations, and ALL lowsec factions, and ALL nullsec alliances.

Don't you think it slightly strange that the Amarr are in charge of this ongoing incursion fight, pushing around their CONCORD underlings? They are so secretive that they do not share information with the other governments. Obviously....we don't trust the Amarr and their blind belief systems.

CONCORD is supposed to be acting non-partial, supporting galactic law for all. The impression given here is that one nation is favored over the others, calling into question their charter.

On a purely personal note, as a Matari and a Vherokior, I cannot see how this attack helps our people in any way.

The Matari are right to not trust CONCORD and the Imperial Loyalists, from all their most recent schemes and actions that much is obvious.

I respectfully disagree, it is not normal at all for DED forces to be placed under the command of Empire, REpublic, State or Federation. CONCORD is supposedly the international law enforcement agency of our time, its jurisdiction spans all of its member states, with the probable exception of the Jove, if you want to be precise. CONCORD has the authority to deploy its forces at will.

This situation where DED vessels have been deployed to guard an Imperial-run facility under what seems to be Amarrian command is to my knowledge unprecedented.

As already helpfully highlighted by Myxx, one of Nation's foremost commanders is already well aware of that something is going on in Monalaz, as we can see from the communications he boastfully released himself. It is not Nation that have been kept in the dark all this time, its the rest of us.

I agree with this.

Sadly, the Elders set a bad precedence for many Matari.

I'm not CONCORD, but, Im afraid, that their representatives won't answer on such questions here. Maybe, because the answers are too obvious. Let me remind you about current political situation.

1. Monalaz constellation IS Amarr territory. Amarr Empire has sovereign right to operate any facilities here.
2. Amarr Empire is lawful society and can request any support from CONCORD to defend its facilities from any known or unknown pirate threats.
3. DED involvement implies anti-pirate nature of facility under discussion.
4. What else commander except of Imperial officer did you expect to find in Imperial facility in Imperial space?

Well, I tried :) If you still have questions, I'd recommend you asking them in CONCORD educational center, I think they can explain things much better, than I.