EVE General Discussion

And this is coming from a person who likes to run them for extra isk, but this is just wtf stupid.

1. I can quickly fleet up in an incursion and get 100 mil in an hour. During that hour, I could also be scanning down a good class 3 wormhole, forming up a fleet for it, moving ships to the WH, and I might make the same amount of isk. It depends on whether or not I get shot in the process of making it (no bounties, need to carry everything out).

2. Everyone does vanguards. FFS EVERYBODY DOES VANGUARDS. It's ******* PACKED in the vanguard systems because of the legion + NCO = iskiskisk. This is stupid. Vanguards shouldn't be the isk printing machines, assaults or HQ's should be much much better and have many more people willing to run them.

3. Low sec incursions should pay WTFisk. It's not worth it with the rate it's at to go out there and try to run the incursions.

just sayin'.

Some people run low sec incursions because they enjoy the opportunity for PVP that they present. Cowards stay in high sec with the rest of the scrubs.

If you think there is too much money to be made, or too many people running them then do something different. It's rather hypocritical to complain about how much money they make when you happily run them yourself. I assume you are complaining about the ISK rewarded, your rant was pretty incoherent.

For the number of people involved in a Highsec Incursion team, (heard something like 8); that's about the same revenue per hour as running wormhole Ops in a C6 per person, and with much less effort. Granted, only the team with the highest DPS gets the ISK.

Still, it may seem a little broken, but I assume competition makes it much less given there are potentially many who get nothing for the effort.

The fact that Vanguards are the highest reward is a bit odd; but I imagine that's just a balance issue, or effort/time vs. ISK

Still haven't run an Incursion, so I'm not really one to judge though.

If the choice is between being a coward in highsec (and my own boss) or a sheep bleating for their supper working for an RMT lord, I know what I'd rather be.

You can make that amount of isk in a t1 frigate in low sec with abit of luck.

That does seem a relatively underwhelming requirement.

It's true.

CCP is on vacation so don't expect much response.

I find it amusing that High-Sec Incursions represent the low bar for what it takes to get a bunch of random strangers in EVE to fly together for the purpose of making ISK.

And that is probably why CCP won't nerf it much. They get people to mix and mingle, and they put ISK in the hands of people likely to blow it on shinies (or, dare I say it, PVP).

I think, on the whole, this sort of thing is good for the game.

And just to clarify, an experienced HQ fleet can make 150mil an hour, however, we are susceptible to losses, primarily logistics ships, with the occasional Battleship/T3 loss due to late broadcasts, and these tend to be people who haven't done a HQ before.

The most I made in an hour was 126mil isk + 28k LP