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[UPDATE 07/04] NEW VIDEO ADDED - EVEisEASY.com; a website dedicated to instructional pvp videos!

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Little Brat
EF2X
#81 - 2012-02-24 20:19:47 UTC
Bischopt wrote:
Yakumo Smith wrote:
The best thing you could do for your guide is to explain what is going through your head.

Kil2 has been doing this on some of his You Tube video's and it's a great way to learn. It's all very easy to get the "book knowledge", but learning the thought process behind the actions people see on video's can take a lot longer.

For example "burning from gate to split the enemy gang", "decided to attack this chap as his mate on the gate alligned in the opposite direction si I figured I had an extra 15 seconds". This detail is often left out of pvp video's and all the watcher sees is the tackled ship with his friend on the gate without the understanding of how this came about and why it's important etc.


Yeah, this.

I actually had my own post which I forgot to save before the forums ate it. ::ccp::
too lazy to type it again.


type your forum post in a word document then copy and paste to the forum...works for me

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Razzor Death
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-02-24 20:32:20 UTC
Garmon wrote:
Hey guys, after I finish Garmonation 9 I'm planning on making a few very indepth guides, (they won't be about HG crystals and tengu links - I only do this when I am frapsing for movie) I want the guides to cater to every one, I'm sure there's something every one can learn, the best I can hope with these indepth guides is that they will inspire highsec dwellers into going to 0.0 and kick some ass

Main reason I'm making this thread is that I'd like to have some feedback on what they'd like to learn, and if you dont pvp, why exactly is that? Could I help?



Hey man GG on taking your big toys out to play and losing them brawling like a lion. Look forward to your video.
Garmon
Gods Holy Light Bringing You're Penance
#83 - 2012-03-11 22:54:34 UTC
So I finished Garmonation 9

Myself, Duncan Tanner, Willl adama has also created a website catered for instructional pvp content at www.eveiseasy.com

After some of the feedback that was given in this thread, and in other places, the style we ended up going with was just recording some fights we had, and go into as much detail as we could and try to explain everything that happened and why we did certain things.

As this is still in the early part of the project, we only have 3 videos up so far, and we're enjoying the process of making these so far, our next installment next weekend will focus on cheap ships any one can take out and solo in without implants or links

More suggestions is still welcome as some has been helpful, we have to prioritize things though, so even if your suggestion is very good, it might not go into effect immediately, but I still appreciate the suggestions, cheers


I like Duncan
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#84 - 2012-03-11 23:16:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ottersmacker
Definitely worth watching for anyone good insight into small-scale PVP, even if you feel you are at an 'advanced' level, it never hurts to go over what you may regard as 'the basics'. Chances are those bothering to watch will pick up some new ideas, hopefully implement them and make EVE more exciting and enjoyable for all.

What my dear corpmates have done here reminds me of a TV documentary character called The Masked Magician, who revealed his tricks of the trade - all with the hope of forcing professional magicians to be innovative again, and to make magic more enjoyable for all.

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.

Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-03-11 23:58:57 UTC
Any kind of feedback on the videos we already made would be most welcome too

Hi

Shogun Archer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2012-03-12 01:05:49 UTC
Thanks for the great videos. I've always had a ton of respect for what you guys do.

If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror.

Caldari Acolyte
Shark Enterprises
#87 - 2012-03-12 01:06:24 UTC
Drop leet booster alt in system and you too can be leet solo PvPer : FixedBlink
Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-03-13 11:42:02 UTC
Caldari Acolyte wrote:
Drop leet booster alt in system and you too can be leet solo PvPer : FixedBlink


We're gonna be releasing a couple of videos this weekend that will be focussed on more 'casual' and accessible pvp (that is - without alts and expensive stuff)

Hi

Espen Egak
Probably Butt Legion
Circle of Hell
#89 - 2012-03-13 12:07:59 UTC
Thank you Garmon you are the bomb!
Ozzie Asrail
Exploited
#90 - 2012-03-13 15:30:44 UTC
Garmon, Duncan and Willl - great videos! If anyone is still worried about PvP then there has never been a better time to learn to PvP than now :)

I really feel the top 2 issues new-ish PvP'ers are:

1. Finding and creating fights - So this includes picking the right regions/systems, finding small gangs to engage, splitting bigger gangs, gauging enemy fleet strengths/weaknesses, etc

2. Fleet compositions - Grabbing any ship and roaming is usually a bad idea. So how do you pick your ships to engage against the odds, what makes a well rounded fleet, etc.
Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#91 - 2012-03-13 17:25:32 UTC
Ozzie Asrail wrote:
Garmon, Duncan and Willl - great videos! If anyone is still worried about PvP then there has never been a better time to learn to PvP than now :)

I really feel the top 2 issues new-ish PvP'ers are:

1. Finding and creating fights - So this includes picking the right regions/systems, finding small gangs to engage, splitting bigger gangs, gauging enemy fleet strengths/weaknesses, etc

2. Fleet compositions - Grabbing any ship and roaming is usually a bad idea. So how do you pick your ships to engage against the odds, what makes a well rounded fleet, etc.

Hi

Garmon
Gods Holy Light Bringing You're Penance
#92 - 2012-03-13 17:37:26 UTC
Two very good points, even the first point will be interesting for the advanced pvper, because that is a problem a lot of people have, thanks
I like Duncan
Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-03-14 00:31:49 UTC
Ooops I didn't mean to emptyquote

Point #1 is already on the drawing board. Point #2 is very interesting, hadn't thought of that!

Hi

DOCTOR OCTAGONAPUS
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2012-03-14 11:10:16 UTC
O7
Zagdul
H A V O C
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#95 - 2012-03-14 12:33:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Zagdul
Yakumo Smith wrote:
The best thing you could do for your guide is to explain what is going through your head.

Kil2 has been doing this on some of his You Tube video's and it's a great way to learn. It's all very easy to get the "book knowledge", but learning the thought process behind the actions people see on video's can take a lot longer.

For example "burning from gate to split the enemy gang", "decided to attack this chap as his mate on the gate alligned in the opposite direction si I figured I had an extra 15 seconds". This detail is often left out of pvp video's and all the watcher sees is the tackled ship with his friend on the gate without the understanding of how this came about and why it's important etc.



The problem is that making these decisions is a split second thought you make after considering past experiences which have failed or succeeded.

Many times good players (not saying I'm one, I'm horrible), make their decisions on experience and this can't be taught. To explain what's going through someone's head can sometimes get very lengthy so the approach they've taken in these videos seems to have found that balance between being too wordy and demonstrating what's going on in someone's head.



when did hydra become newbie friendly :)

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#96 - 2012-03-15 10:56:09 UTC
Zagdul wrote:


The problem is that making these decisions is a split second thought you make after considering past experiences which have failed or succeeded.

Many times good players (not saying I'm one, I'm horrible), make their decisions on experience and this can't be taught. To explain what's going through someone's head can sometimes get very lengthy so the approach they've taken in these videos seems to have found that balance between being too wordy and demonstrating what's going on in someone's head.



You're right, some things can only be learned through experience. Nonetheless, having an understanding of certain game mechanics and so on is a good foundation to build your experience upon, and that's pretty much what we're going for with this. People probably shouldn't expect to suddenly be PVP-experts just from the knowledge they can gain from videos such as ours, but it'll definately help them to get out there and improve their game much faster.

Hi

Uppsy Daisy
Perkone
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-03-15 11:38:33 UTC
Really good videos and a great idea.

I know you have loads of ISK Garmon, but if you want to bring PVP to the masses, flying a Machariel with a Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor and gods knows what else Faction Goodies and Implants is probably not the way to go unless it is really what you need to succeed.

Is it?
Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-03-15 12:47:00 UTC
Uppsy Daisy wrote:
Really good videos and a great idea.

I know you have loads of ISK Garmon, but if you want to bring PVP to the masses, flying a Machariel with a Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor and gods knows what else Faction Goodies and Implants is probably not the way to go unless it is really what you need to succeed.

Is it?


We're aware of this issue. We're actually going to release a few more couple of videos this weekend which will focus on much more accessible stuff to the casual player (that'll be unlinked and without super expensive stuff).

It's probably going to be solo Wolf and Rupture action

Hi

Duncan Tanner
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#99 - 2012-03-16 10:49:03 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
when did hydra become newbie friendly :)


We've always been newbie friendly : )

.

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2012-03-16 11:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
I would not mind joining Hydra... could learn hell of a lot. EDIT: If they will have me.

Anyway, to me PVP is a attitude thing. You either have it or you don't. Learning to do the basics can help but being great takes more than the skills you train. It takes a certain type of attitude.

Nice Site, awesome job.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk