EVE General Discussion

I don't quite understand what I am supposed to read besides your inability to get away from a single broadsword whose bubbles don't prevent MWD activation while IN A THRASHER which should be significantly more capable of running away.

If the ship camping the gate was a Sabre instead of a Broadsword, then things would be significantly less your fault.

I guess I have a billion ISK to grind then so I can afford some mercenaries.

1) Fly there in a shuttle and an empty clone right before or right after downtime. If the locals are active at a particular timezone, fly in their off time.

2) Fly a covops frigate with a covops cloak.

3) Covops nullified TIII cruiser.

4) Get a friend or an alt to scout the route for you.

5) Join a corporation and fight your way in.

Oh look, PvPer tears :D

p.s. Windowed mode ftw

I don't see the problem here.

You made a string of bad choices, which ended up in you getting yourself killed, and somehow, this is the game's fault?

Luckily your rules don't involve 0.0 anymore. This is probably for the best.

you do know after you get past the great wall of ganker that are the entrance to null, most of null is devoid of life besides the bots ever now and then.



let me give youa run down on PVP in eve


if your solo all your going to see are groups of 3 or more people

if there's 3 of you all your going to see are groups of 6 or more

6 people groups of 15 or more


20 of you 50 to 70 man blobs


100 of you eather a 500 man blob or no one



THAT is eve pvp, there's no even in eve, there's the ganker and loser or the bigger blob

@ OP

The lesson you learned:
-none

The lesson you should have learned:
-EvE is not intended to be a single player game.
-It's extremely rare for a solo player to win against superior numbers and superior ships.
-Flying with friends greatly increases your chances of victory.

You really missed the last point. Learn the word Synergy. It's defined as two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable, or in this case players working together towards a mutual goal. Ever hear the phrase "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts"? It's not just an annoying saying. It actually means something.

I've been living in null sec for about a month now and have only died once. The reason why is because I wandered off from the main fleet to do my own thing. Lost a T2 fitted battlecruisers because of it. I've been in many PvP fights after that without dying simply because of teamwork.

Your misunderstanding of how PvP works in EvE is quite obvious. There is no right or wrong. No sense of morality or fairness. No code of honor nor any bizarre notions of mercy.

EvE is anarchy, plain and simple, with groups of players banding together for various reasons. Greed, mutual safety and lofty goals of galactic domination.

Despite your strange rant/auto troll /defiant fist at the uncaring universe just to prove its uncaring/wallotexty/Kung-Pow self defeating style/allegory in a vacuum/one lined sideburn/trollbait post, I think that perhaps, just perhaps, you could try joining Faction Warfare.

Like you I totally hate 0.0 (nice friends living there, but thats something else you know who you are "waves") so I decided I would try something simpler and what many people consider pvp-lite in that it's usually less convoluted than 0.0

In FW you can pretty much do basic pvp chores like roaming/gatecamping and mission running for lp rewards in a low sec set of systems where you usually see a lot of action. I bought a bunch of t1 frigates and a bunch of the same setup about 10 times for less than 5 million isk and with my disposable ships and jump clone without implants decided to roam a bit.

After doing a mission and getting blown up by an "evil pirate" I joined up a friendly gang of people camping gates. After a kill and some close encounters where people managed to flee from our incredible might of awesomelolness T1 frigs and a t2 one a couple of guys pwned us in cruisers.

And this was in just one day. It was good, entertaining and totally fun.

If you begin to see eve as a series of ships worth 234 mill isk and the balance to "win" is always add up isk to your wallet no matter what and you are just starting, then friend, honestly you doing it wrong.

Buy a bunch of ships and if you see targets you dont feel you can't quite kill RUN, everybody does it. Scout ahead or like me just jump for the lulz into the next low sec system and say hi to everybody .

You will die, a LOT (so buy tons of t1 frigs) ... if you want to fight using t3 ships, pimped faction battleships and expect to win everytime I don't know, there's something wrong there.

I understand your feeling of running pirate missions for rp purposes or to represent how you see yourself in the game world, problem is , in all those games you had to grind faction for them and sometimes spawns of the faction ships attacked you. Unlike a single player mode, to earn the faction to work in the area you have to talk to others and the ships spawning to kill you are piloted by real people willing to kill you if you not blue or don't belong to their club.

If you want single player experiences in a MMO, please, kindly go play SWTOR, I have heard its awesome in doing that, you can like have red lightsabers and shoot lightning bolts of evil dark side electricity at all the bad people that don't understand you.

Problem is not eve, problem is the player's attitudes, and to be more concise how the majority of a consensus clashes with certain player's idea of how to play a game.

Hi Sec is populated to hell because it's profitable, unless you do something really wrong you grind up XP ... err ISK and it always goes up, and you keep buying ships and cool faction mods that make you have a sense of purple lootism and advancement,and you can grind L4's with a clock timing next to you and generate great isk/hour ratios and ponder the best EFT graph parsing the most theoretically efficient way to kill DRONES endlessly over and over for LP and moar ISK, or you mine over and over and see the little can fill up with tasty ores and you do it over and over again for hours as you watch pr0n or the last rerun of whatever show/movie you happen to like in TV.

I totally understand your frustration if it's real, you are accustomed to playing games a CERTAIN way where you are the Dovahkiin of Legend and you kill dragons by FOS RUH DA'ing them over edges and you have 100 in all skills and you are oh so special and no matter what you do endless hordes of npcs will say you are so awesome and oyu can marry them and they will love you in pxelated polygon love for ever as the world is loaded in your ram , but then you come into eve and right away take an arrow in the knee and you realize you are just another guy in a weird sandlot full of cat crap, bullies, midgets, and the center is full of nice people only because there's a sandguardian, but the edges have all manners of weirdos and wig wearing transvestites.

So Hi Sec is the most close thing to an experience like that where you are somewhat safe, you can mine, mission run and hate people for wanting to violence you ship when all you want is do missions for a pirate faction known for extorsion, murder, racketeering and profiteering and the only thing between you and them is a bunch of people that came into a zone and said "THIS CRAP IS MINE" and don't let you pass through it because they can't understand they are killing pvp and eve is wrong so wrong, perhaps because they use transvestite wigs and high heels, who knows?

So yes, eve is wrong.

No

EVE just is. The only strange thing here is the wig wearing transvestites at the edge of the sandlot that is peed and po'od upon and you want to go there and be free and roam carelessly in the winds. But that's how it is. It's an utter monstrosity of a hodgepodge of people that created an artificial set of rules and yes, those rules sometimes totally suck but that's how things are.

But if EVE removed the Sandguardian Police at the center of the lot everyone would leave and eve would die, because all the midgets and weirdos would love to just grief the others, and not for being great or normal, simply because they are midgets and wig wearing transvestites that just want to dance instead of paying the bills to the pimps that live at the edges of the sandlot.

So stop pretending you are not a wig wearing trans or a midget or a weirdo, we all are here in the sandlot, the thing just boils down to the issue of you wanting to dance for free and for love to the art or you just want to dance and pay the pimps and belong to a nightclub instead of doing it in the communal YMCA abandoned lot at the center where no one cares

don't run 0.0 missions imo.
use a ship with a cloak and rat, or run anoms or something. be your own boss and collect bounties on npc pirates.

you think someone is after you? warp to random safe spot and cloak.. soon as cloaked in safe spot you will never die.