Assembly Hall

T2 Orca:

Unless noted all stats are the same as the Orca

Halve the Maintenance Bay
Cut the Corporate Hangar Bay by 25%
Get rid of the Cargo Hold
Increase the Ore Hold to the size of the Cargo Hold
Make all skills/Mods/Rigs that modify cargo hold capacity increase the capacity of the Ore hold.
Make the Ore Hold able to hold minerals as well (this would be great on the Orca too).
Allow the fitting of an Industrial Core (90-99% reduction in CPU and Power Grid needed to fit a Industrial Core)
Add one high slot

Increase time to align.
Increase top sub warp speed while decreasing acceleration (increase time to get into warp).

Goal of this ship is to provide high sec corps with a dedicated mining platform for grav sites and large belt ops.

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Other Mining Things
Most of these thoughts are to better define miners v. industrialist.

Capital Mining ships: Would like to see some bigger ships for Null Sec Mining (while being first on this part of the list this is the least important to me personally.)
Tech 3 Mining ship
Can not fit Offensive Sub Systems
New "Mining" Sub systems
Sub Systems would give bonuses to specific types of ore yield
Ore specific mining lasers: ^
Ore specific mining upgrades: ^^
Rigs for mining ships
Add Dedicated Gas Harvester

you know, I could swear I've put minerals in my ore holds....

ofc, if I'm in a mining op, I'm far from sober, so I could be wrong :-D

Some of us don't have the time to dedicate to null sec or W-space.

If you got time to write this tripe of a proposal and not bother to do your homework on mechancis and balance of those mechancis....and infer use of equipment on the scale your indicateing...you got time to go to WHS/0.0 and mine.

I think you have alot to learn before you make such a statement.

I suggest you MAKE the time to go to WHS and 0.0 and then come back here and evalaute your proposal as such.

You quite obviuosly have no concept of living in 0.0/WHS when it comes to industry.

And buffing High Sec with a rorqual like ship is a threatening dare to crash the economy as it is.

You have orca's...you have hulks...and you have PI....and yet you want bigger better orca's...maybe you should take a step back and think about the ramifications of your statement.

I'm quite sure we would love a non-capitial rorqual out here....we'd literally make a killing.

WHS Would be out of control when it comes to profitiblity with industrial core presense...specially if the ship is as big (or should I say "Small") as an orca in mass and size.

But you didn't think about that did you?

Hate to give him +1 but he's absoltuely right...this is the only industrial ship I'd support adding. If not a Gas Strip Miner.

Check my employment history. You should find I'm ex-F-CON so I do have an idea on what living in null sec is like. I have also lived in W-space and it would be a great support ship for C1-3 WH where Rorqs can't pass in and out of. Also I will concede the point on mass, it may have to be bumped up. Instead of straight up knocking the idea why not contribute to refining it.

C1 - C3 has grav sites, and POS have refineries, and you can buy a BPC pack for a rorqual for about 500m (give or take, I haven't bothered looking in a year or so).

sure, you're going to burn a lot of time and minerals in doing this ... but if you want a rorq in w-space, then there's nothing stopping you from getting it. And, putting a rorq inside gets you even more bonuses than an Orca would anyway.

As it stands, you can drag in nearly 2900 m3/minute with a maxxed hulk and orca pilot. Hisec doesn't need any more buffs.

If you want a rorq without the time commitments of null or w-space ... there's always lowsec.

I don't support this either .. how about

Increase the maintenance bay by 25%
remove the corp hanger entirely
reduce the cargo hold by 50%
increase the ore hold by 50% and make the size increase with skill level
Add an extra high slot
Increase its agility and acceleration
increase its shield and armour resists by 15%

basically make a T2 equivalent which mirrors the T1::T2 hauler/blockade runner

Correct/Confirmed/BTDT

This...I COULD...possibly get behind...maybe a +1 to warp stab and make it a low sec orca or something. Nothing extravigant.

But then one would argue a Rorqual fits that bill in lowsec.

And Orca is hard enough to kill in High Sec...I'm hard pressed to make any changes on it honestly.

Perhaps a Rig to modify cargo space alottments or something..but that doesn't make sense either because your still getting the same total cargo space overall.

And nuking the corp hanger isn't going to work...its the perefct anti-gank tool.

Anything in a cargo bay outside the main cargo bay...is toast if the ship does get ganked. Yes I understand your making ore hold bigger...but the corp hanger helps when your delaing with large operations for various corporations who pay out differently.