EVE General Discussion

None, because it never did that before. And that's really the question here: why should it?

…but on the other hand, I have moved close to containers when I didn't particularly want to, both at speeds I didn't want and in directions I didn't want — in both cases, I would have preferred to have it just tell me that I'm being silly, as in the olden days.

I can understand it being done automagically for the “dock” command — the command itself implies that I no longer want to be where I am. The “open” command doesn't quite have any such connotations in my mind vOv.

edit: It doesn't even have to be that complicated — we have an rclick menu for warp to zero and orbit and keep at range to adjust the specifics of those command. Is it so much to ask for an rclick menu with the option “approach before attempting command”?

I don't know... I've played this game for a bit now and really look forward to mechanic changes of all kinds. ...invariably, when one door closes another opens in EvE, and I kind of like coming up with new trickery and scumbaggery. Almost any change offers that opportunity. So really, there are things that I would like to see changed and things I would prefer not to change (on the surface), but more than anything I want to see changes made. Stagnant gameplay for stagnant games. Let's shake the box and see what falls out.

/disclaimer: Just read about potential outpost destruction soon™ and am v. excited.

Almost all shortcuts in Eve are customizable. Set them to absurdly unlikely key combos including [shift]+[ctrl]+[alt] and you can basically restore original lack of functionality. Nevermind the one keyboard shortcut that you actually may want to customize and/or activate with greater faculty...

All I see here is an excess of hot air and an amazing lack of desire to expend any calories..

Fixed your post.

Lemmings: It never gets old.

Bring in the commissars!

You've obviously never had to migrate an office full of technotards from ms office 2007 to ms office 2010.

Emphasis mine. So both ways work now. Nice. But then...



So it works the old way but people want to cry because it now works a new way, too. I can see how intelligent game designers may find this feedback to be wanting. I mean you said one paragraph ago - on the same page even - that both ways work. This seems like the definition of "optionality" - if such a word were to actually have a definition...



OK I see that it's the change that miffed you now, and it's not nearly as readily rectified as I suggested. After all, players cannot remove new functionality - even if they can continue to rely on the old functionality despite the new.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I can imagine it would take a moderately competent player literally seconds of gameplay to adjust to this dreaded new optional functionality.

All you have to do is not do it the new way.

I do get it now. You claim to lack control over what you have or have not selected. This is false.

Other than that, yes, I totally sympathize. Seriously, it's super easy to not select anything. It's almost just as easy to deselect.

So basically you are saying you have hamfingers and refuse to clear your erroneous selections. Because now having items pre-selected is a problem and you can't be bothered to exercise precision in your gameplay, CCP is responsible for your failure to use the old way because they gave you a new way to use which causes you to fail. Am I right?

If so this is the best unintentional tear harvest I have ever stumbled upon.

Yes, you too can clear your overview of selections. And it gets even better! You don't have to select anything you don't want to select before you execute a command!

Blaming CCP for failure due to this seems almost inconceivably petty. Your hands. Your keyboard. Your input.

You wouldn't blame Microsoft if you accidentally formatted your external hard drive by being sloppy with your clicks, would you? Maybe you would. But it'd still be your problem as well as your fault.

I thought I just did.

Seriously, if you played EVE for a straight century I doubt that you'd spend more than half an hour during that gameplay doing anything different than you did under the old functionality.

Don't pre-select stuff, and if you do, then de-select prior to hotkeying. Once your overview is clear, queue up your hotkey and enjoy!

I mean really, I appreciate the compliment, but I think you can get past this horrible new feature with only the barest minimum of true butthurt.

PS: Sorry for the threadjack. But the same solution applies to the thread's topic.

If it's so very critical that you not move or change direction, then don't try to open a new container. Doing so is no different than browsing the market and watching Jersey Shore during a moment that it's critical for you keep an eye on a gate. The activities are basically counterproductive and mutually exclusive.

However, if it's not a critical moment and you find yourself moving erroneously, hit [ctrl] + [space]. Then get back on course.

Once again, your hands, your keyboard, your input.

Naa... I prefer to be in the mentally limited 1% who resist the change and have to listen the 99% complaining about 1% wanting a check box to the option menu which doesn't take anything off from their new 99% functionality.

However as you've pointed out - being butthurt about issue is worse than being butthurt about someone who wants to fix an issue. For that reason I no longer want to complain. I'm just going to be mentally limited and continue to listen while you do it. I've learned a lesson here as you can see.