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Can you fit capital ships into a Class 4 wormhole?
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SomeoneStrange
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#1 - 2012-01-04 01:11:30 UTC
Hey all,

I've been trying to research this lately, and seem to get conflicting information on the topic. Some sites/wikis say that capital ships cannot be flown into a Class 4 wormhole, only built there, whereas others have said that if a wormhole from a C5/C6 opens into the Class 4, you can in fact cram Capitals inside.

Can anyone with a decent chunk of experience in wormholes answer this? I've been considering finding an empty C4, but would rather be isolated from capital ship invasions if possible.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-04 01:34:10 UTC
SomeoneStrange wrote:
Hey all,

I've been trying to research this lately, and seem to get conflicting information on the topic. Some sites/wikis say that capital ships cannot be flown into a Class 4 wormhole, only built there, whereas others have said that if a wormhole from a C5/C6 opens into the Class 4, you can in fact cram Capitals inside.

Can anyone with a decent chunk of experience in wormholes answer this? I've been considering finding an empty C4, but would rather be isolated from capital ship invasions if possible.



While I really don't know for sure, I would surmise from the others I have seen that you cannot. It seems any WH that spawns retains the mass limits of the lower WH.

For example, a C6 WH to a C1 would retain the C1's mass limits (nothing over BC).
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-04 02:02:14 UTC
I'm sick of this god damn question.
No, you CANNOT jump a capital into a C4, move on.
Orca not included.

There is no Bob.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-01-04 02:03:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
Edit: Emphatic 'no' poisting prior to mine noted ... while I was typing :-) I guess if that's the case, then someone needs to edit that wiki page.



I never had any cap-ship visitors in my C4, but have always understood that that was possible. In C3s, 2s, and 1s the cap-ships you see in system were built there and cannot leave that system intact. In a C4 it is possible to jump cap-ships in from, or out to, C4/5/6 systems providing the characteristics of the wormhole itself allow the mass.

No wormhole connecting w-space to hisec or to C1, C2, or C3 w-systems is large enough to allow a capital ship (I wish I still had my database here to quote the numbers for you ... but my work admins seem to have somehow noticed that it's not really work related).

Not yet tested but thus is my understanding FWIW.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormhole_space
Item 14: "Capital ships can get into a class 4, 5 or 6 wormhole only but may be build directly in lower classes."

p.s. capitals do not trigger cap-ship-spawns in C4s, only C5s and 6s.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#5 - 2012-01-04 04:38:43 UTC
It is misinformed ignoramuses like this which lead to ROTEM's reputation for being jackanapes.

Having built caps in C4's, can confirm that we could never get them through to C5's or C6's.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-01-04 08:40:12 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
It is misinformed ignoramuses like this which lead to ROTEM's reputation for being jackanapes.

Having built caps in C4's, can confirm that we could never get them through to C5's or C6's.



Wow!

There's a lot of butt-hurt there if ya hafta try turn someones attempt at helping out into a personal attack like that. Ya poor fellow.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
LacLongQuan
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-01-04 14:53:30 UTC
no, cap wont fit in any C4 wh, ni-g
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-01-05 01:39:33 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormhole_space
Item 14: "Capital ships can get into a class 4, 5 or 6 wormhole only but may be build directly in lower classes."


I have yet to see a WH related wiki/info page that is actually accurate and useful.
I think the E-UNI one is the worst ive seen (at least was last i read it) but theyre all varying levels of crap.

There is no Bob.

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Caldari Citizen 786478786
#9 - 2012-01-05 01:52:58 UTC
You do realize that most Wiki pages, including the E-UNI one, can be edited by just about anybody? Then again, it's much easier just to whine about bad information than do the legwork to correct it.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-01-05 02:11:17 UTC
Having lived in wormholes for over a year, C6,C2,C1,C5,C4
You can only fly build-in capitals in c4 and below.
You can fly capitals in and out of c5 and c6.

Everyone saying anything else is a darn liar.
Imustbecomfused
Illicit Expo
#11 - 2012-01-05 09:06:39 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Having lived in wormholes for over a year, C6,C2,C1,C5,C4
You can only fly build-in capitals in c4 and below.
You can fly capitals in and out of c5 and c6.

Everyone saying anything else is a darn liar.



Haha, aint that the truth.