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So....roleplaying

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#1 - 2012-01-03 19:17:34 UTC
I have a few observations on roleplaying and would like others to either confirm or explain why this is;

The Minmatar tend to roleplay the most. Between both faction wars, Minnies vs Amarr tends to have more roleplaying than the Gallente vs Caldari. Why? I found the races that roleplay the most are the following from most to least;

Minmatar
Amarr
Gallente
Caldari

Am I wrong?

Also, a question for those RPing corps who say you roleplay in your corps/alliance;

What is RPing to you and what level of RPing do you expect from your members? Must they always stay in character including stay true to the sex of the character? Gasp. Or just stay true to the history/lore of the race? How far do you go when RPing?

Just really curious.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#2 - 2012-01-03 19:37:02 UTC
I'd assume the Minmatar and Amarr are higher in RP cause they have stronger and more straight forward ideals, lore, storylines, and more clear cut rivalries.

Gallente and Caldari are closer to just being "normal" people without a whole lot of spectacular stuff.

The Drake is a Lie

Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#3 - 2012-01-03 19:51:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Xercodo wrote:
I'd assume the Minmatar and Amarr are higher in RP cause they have stronger and more straight forward ideals, lore, storylines, and more clear cut rivalries.

Gallente and Caldari are closer to just being "normal" people without a whole lot of spectacular stuff.


And yet Gallente and Caldari are often going for each others jugular with the spectacular forum warrioring . lol

I honestly can't remember the last time I've seen a Minnie vs Amarr forum war

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2012-01-03 19:52:56 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
I'd assume the Minmatar and Amarr are higher in RP cause they have stronger and more straight forward ideals, lore, storylines, and more clear cut rivalries.

Gallente and Caldari are closer to just being "normal" people without a whole lot of spectacular stuff.


And yet Gallente and Caldari are often going for each others jugular with the spectacular forum warrioring . lol


That's cause Caldari and Gallente rivalry lends itself more to being generic asshats to eachother then the kinda of deep rooted and honor ingrain rivalry the Minmatar and Amarr have.

xD

The Drake is a Lie

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-01-03 19:56:47 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
I'd assume the Minmatar and Amarr are higher in RP cause they have stronger and more straight forward ideals, lore, storylines, and more clear cut rivalries.

Gallente and Caldari are closer to just being "normal" people without a whole lot of spectacular stuff.


And yet Gallente and Caldari are often going for each others jugular with the spectacular forum warrioring . lol


That's cause Caldari and Gallente rivalry lends itself more to being generic asshats to eachother then the kinda of deep rooted and honor ingrain rivalry the Minmatar and Amarr have.

xD

LOL (Sorry, no content to add... just thought that was humorous). : )
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#6 - 2012-01-03 20:25:19 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
I'd assume the Minmatar and Amarr are higher in RP cause they have stronger and more straight forward ideals, lore, storylines, and more clear cut rivalries.

Gallente and Caldari are closer to just being "normal" people without a whole lot of spectacular stuff.


And yet Gallente and Caldari are often going for each others jugular with the spectacular forum warrioring . lol


That's cause Caldari and Gallente rivalry lends itself more to being generic asshats to eachother then the kinda of deep rooted and honor ingrain rivalry the Minmatar and Amarr have.

xD


So you're roleplaying right now amirite? :)

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2012-01-03 20:28:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Deen Wispa wrote:
I have a few observations on roleplaying and would like others to either confirm or explain why this is;

The Minmatar tend to roleplay the most. Between both faction wars, Minnies vs Amarr tends to have more roleplaying than the Gallente vs Caldari. Why? I found the races that roleplay the most are the following from most to least;

Minmatar
Amarr
Gallente
Caldari

Am I wrong?


As an ex-member (and member in spirit) of Ushra'Khan, perhaps I can offer some perspective. So far as the Amarr/Minmatar conflict being the most RP-ed out, that is because it is the most combat-worthy one. Which would you rather participate in?
Theocratic opressive empire trying to dominate and enslave proud, 'excitable', and maybe slightly technologically-impaired people... or... Corporations with unpronounceable names vs politicians with unpronounceable names, arguing about civil liberties, rights of man, and other such things?

Gallente/Caldari RP is more conducive to really "getting into it" and doing a lot of soapbox stuff. Look up Andreus Ixiris if you want a good example. Amarr/Minmatar RP is better for just picking up and going with it, plus going out and shooting something.

So no, you're not wrong, and that's an astute observation.

Deen Wispa wrote:

Also, a question for those RPing corps who say you roleplay in your corps/alliance;

What is RPing to you and what level of RPing do you expect from your members? Must they always stay in character including stay true to the sex of the character? Gasp. Or just stay true to the history/lore of the race? How far do you go when RPing?

Just really curious.


It varies from alliance to alliance and from corp to corp. Generally, the more restrictive or "hardcore" the RP, the fewer members you're going to get. In Eve, there is strength in numbers, so RP entities try to strike a balance between RP and offering a reasonable game experience.

In Ushra'Khan's case, the RP is rather light -- particularly recently when most enemies have not been RP enemies. There is no need to stick to strict canon in in-corporation chats. However, goals may be dictated by RP: declare war on PIE Inc. because they are evil slavers, disrupt CVA's imperial expansionist agenda in Providence, shoot neutrals in Amarr space but not elsewhere, etc.

Additionally, any "public communication" is considered in-character unless explicitly otherwise. For example, in this thread I can talk freely about anything, but in space I am loathe to mention the term "RP" in a local channel. I actually maintain a for-newbies blog which is (for better or for worse) completely in-character. I bet some readers actually didn't even notice.

The rule of thumb is "if your character doesn't know about it, don't mention it in public channels". RL politics? Nope. RL parallels (e.g. "this war reminds me of the French Revolution")? Nope. In-game non-RP politics (e.g. Goonswarm is harassing hisec miners)? Sure, that's fine. PLEX prices? Sure, but don't go into $ amounts.

In fact, with minimal restraint, you could be a non-RP player who is a very happy member of a RP corp/alliance. But again, it varies. Ask around!

Edit: You can also make both RPers and non-RPers want to kill you, then kill themselves to forget about you. Look up Vaari. I'm not sure if he's actually a pompous and stupid Amarr, or if he's satirizing pompous and stupid Amarr, but he's good at it either way.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2012-01-03 20:38:16 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:

So you're roleplaying right now amirite? :)


nope :P

both personally and in character i don't really care about the rivalry the factions have and would rather we all get along. I'm the Amarrian that flies Minmatar xD

The Drake is a Lie

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#9 - 2012-01-03 20:40:29 UTC
Xercodo wrote:

both personally and in character i don't really care about the rivalry the factions have and would rather we all get along. I'm the Amarrian that flies Minmatar xD


I RP and I'm a Minmatar who likes to fly Amarrian ships. It's okay though, when I buy them I always ensure they have the Slave-Free Certified™ seal. P

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#10 - 2012-01-03 21:36:46 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:

both personally and in character i don't really care about the rivalry the factions have and would rather we all get along. I'm the Amarrian that flies Minmatar xD


I RP and I'm a Minmatar who likes to fly Amarrian ships. It's okay though, when I buy them I always ensure they have the Slave-Free Certified™ seal. P


My "slaves" are willing, no drugs or any disciplinary crap. hehehe....

The Drake is a Lie

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#11 - 2012-01-03 21:41:35 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:

both personally and in character i don't really care about the rivalry the factions have and would rather we all get along. I'm the Amarrian that flies Minmatar xD


I RP and I'm a Minmatar who likes to fly Amarrian ships. It's okay though, when I buy them I always ensure they have the Slave-Free Certified™ seal. P


My "slaves" are willing, no drugs or any disciplinary crap. hehehe....


Now that's just derogatory and insulting. Shame on you.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#12 - 2012-01-03 22:05:57 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:


My "slaves" are willing, no drugs or any disciplinary crap. hehehe....


Now that's just derogatory and insulting. Shame on you.


how so? They chose to do what they do, hence "slave" in quotes ^^

The Drake is a Lie

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#13 - 2012-01-03 22:16:32 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xercodo wrote:


My "slaves" are willing, no drugs or any disciplinary crap. hehehe....


Now that's just derogatory and insulting. Shame on you.


how so? They chose to do what they do, hence "slave" in quotes ^^

Calling Minmatar "slaves" even with the quotes is akin to calling all people of dark skin color ni-- waaaait, that's not in-character.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#14 - 2012-01-03 23:05:28 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

Calling Minmatar "slaves" even with the quotes is akin to calling all people of dark skin color ni-- waaaait, that's not in-character.


No I mean that they do things for me xD

not many of them are Brutor Big smile

The Drake is a Lie

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#15 - 2012-01-03 23:08:38 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

Calling Minmatar "slaves" even with the quotes is akin to calling all people of dark skin color ni-- waaaait, that's not in-character.


No I mean that they do things for me xD

not many of them are Brutor Big smile

Oh. Well don't I feel like a bigot now... What?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#16 - 2012-01-04 01:16:39 UTC
AMARR VICTOR EVERUYONE ELSE IS A SCRUB HEATHEN AND WORTHLESS IN SOCEIETY :d

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#17 - 2012-01-04 08:08:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Schmata Bastanold
I did not really read any of Eve fiction or stories about races and stuff to build my character on, I just thought that I would be fun and maybe challenging to go pure Minmatar without any cross training. I did choose Minmatar because description suited my way of playing from other games: guns blazing, berserk mode, f**k protection and funny lights (lazors).

So now I train only for minnie ships, try to get as much skills as I can to support my vision of playing and I am having fun with it.

My little roleplaying also involves respecting players who I had nice fights with (at least they were nice fights to me) and I have short list of people that I will spill my projectile vengeance upon when I will see them next time. For example coward who exploited my newbie naive way of trusting other newbies and got me into polite convo until his friend in droneboat landed on us and shred me into pieces. But even that he is on my todo list I am grateful for this valuable lesson of New Eden life.

That's my take on roleplaying side of Eve adventure.

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Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
#18 - 2012-01-04 08:30:05 UTC
I havn't been much into roleplaying in EVE by myself, but I tend to look in the intergalactic summit forum a bit und some time ago I followed some ingame roleplaying chat channels. Maybe will I try to get into roleplaying some time in the future again.

I think the players who have posted before me are right about why Minmatar and Amarr are the most roleplayed factions. It's the classic slave master - rebel conflict. The (supposed) evil masters and the (supposed) good rebels. This concept is very easy to grasp and already has a nice conflict for roleplaying potential and stories. Many like to have those clear archetypes.
By the way, as much as I have seen there seem to be more Amarr roleplayers than Minmatar roleplayers, but just my observations, I could be wrong.


With regard to your questions about RP corps I can't say that much. Never was part of one in EVE. I think EVE by it's very nature has more roleplayers than many would like to admit. Not because they are speaking in character or because they have backgrounds for their characters, but because most act logical in the context of the game world. I've build my corp a bit on some RP like background but that is all. Nothing required in form of RP from anyone.
Toshiro GreyHawk
#19 - 2012-01-04 11:24:47 UTC
To the OP.

I don't really role play but one thought on the issue of Caldari and Gallente FW groups - what I think you're seeing on the forums is just typical trash talking that you'd find between any group of rivals. There's no actual need to role play at all. They just bad mouth the other guys because they're on the other team. Simple as that. They may throw in a few insulting remarks based on back story but it seems to me that's just a normal use of an opponents back ground in trash talking - rather than actual role play.

Most of the back and forth I've seen between the Caldari and Gallente FW guys has been in the line of who's a blobber or a coward or incompetent rather than having to do with back story.

So ... there may actually be even less role playing amongst Gallente & Caldari than you might think.

No firm conclusion here ... just a thought.

*shrug*


As to the situation between the Amarr & the Minmatar - yeah - I think you've got something there.

.

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-01-04 18:25:36 UTC
I think don't RP as much because they're more "modern" races than Amarr and Minmatar, so a little harder to roleplay. Amarr religious zealot and imperial snob-- easy. Minmatar rebellious tough guy-- also easy. Caldari corporate industrialist solder? Not as easy. Same for Gallente cosmopolitan democracy hedonist.
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