Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actually, character sale is bullshit. There is no reason for it, and it should never have started. Character sale is EXACTLY pay-to-win, and wrecks the game.

Back to OPs post:

You are obviously incapable of using the search function of the forum. This has been suggested MANY times; always the answer is a resounding no. So just let it be.

Because that character has had someone behind it to put in all that SP. In some cases it's YEARS of constant upkeep in order to keep it training.

If a player buys a character, it's not paying to win because that character will be no better than any other character in the game.

Now, if you allowed someone to straight up buy SP, they would be able to surpass any SP quantities of any player in game and the SP would be unbacked by years of training.

So instead of a player buying a 2 year old character with decent SP in the skills you would like,but still being at the will of the player who created the character, so you may have tons of SP you will feel might be waisted into something like Gallente ships and turrets when you want Caldari and missiles. A player would instead be able to out SP any player that has been in this game constantly training since day one. They could simply spend all their daddy's money to max their character out in SP, then buy a ton of plexes to sell in order to purchase all the books in game.

being able to buy a character is NOT play to win because I don't care who was behind the training of the character, as long as their was someone there. It's not different than if you had a really good buddy who just got tired of the whole thing and gave you his 100mil character.

Not to mention, pay to win would have to assume that the player is paying REAL money in order to out perform YOU.
Paying real money is still illegal, and being able to out perform another player is mostly based on the pilot and only based on that SP to a certain point.
I've seen very low sp characters will all t1 fits woop the crap out of characters that had over 100mil and and fully faction fitted.

they can catch up. It just takes a few months.

This isn't WOW where you can grind to L80 in a month and then be at the "endgame" with everyone else getting your sparkleponies.

Yes, you're all right in saying that a 2011 toon won't have the same breadth of skills that I do and can never effectively "catch up" in total SP... but in any one area (say flying rifters), only so much SP can be put toward it. Within 2 months or so, a newbie can effectively have all L4 skills for that Rifter, putting them 15-20% behind me (assuming I'm L5 across the board ... which I'm not).

Like the PLEX was made to counter RMT it was conceived as a solution to counter account selling. You can ban the practice all you want, but it will still happen and CCP is the one who has to sort out the mess. By creating a legit way to transfer characters, CCP earns more money, reduces the harm and aggrevation of the players and consequently the work CCP has to do to clean things up. It only has upsides for CCP and players aren't protestin over it, since the trade always existed and every SP those characters have was trained legitimely by someone. It doesn't break anything, since the same rules apply to the bought character. Basicly one veteran character has a new player controlling it, which doesn't disrupt the game in any way, since nothing new has happened or game mechanics been altered. Nobody would even know the difference, if they didn't tell us that a transfer had taken place.

So there are good reasons for having the system, there is no damage done to the game and the trading would be going on even if CCP had never made it legit. Yes RL money bought you an advantage and you don't have to like it, but it's a practical approach to the problem of account selling and makes the most out of a bad situation and doesn't create more problems than already existed before the solution.

…and they can do that already.

Yes, I overlooked your limit, but then you still don't solve anything. That point value will simply be the new default starting point and the same complaint will remain. All that does is create a mechanic that people will whinge about having extended for higher and higher numbers because they still don't understand that it isn't needed to begin with.

Again, the EVE skill system already solves this problem. “Catching up” isn't an applicable concept because it happens automatically due to how skill levels work.

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Instantly fly Titans at Day 1

No. Not to be rude, but no times infinity.