Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I don't know if this has been proposed in the past, but a quick search didn't turn up anything similar.

In the same vein of how the logoffski trick has been removed in crucible, the self destruct is the only tactic that's still bothering supercap killers. So I propose a new idea that shouldn't be dificult to implement. As long as a ship is warp disrupted or scrammed, the self destruct shouldn't work. The only exception to this rule should be pods because you can't eject from a pod if somebody chooses to grief you by holding you in place.

Meh it's been suggested, not implemented. Also, it has some issues with forcing people to eject.

Your suggestion, extending suicide timers based on EHP/size, providing KMs whilst still denying loot, providing loss mails without the aggressors on etc. have all been suggested before. Think it passed one of those silly CSM vote things too.

If CCP haven't implemented it by now, chances are they aren't going to.

Because it would be griefable by pointing a ship and going afk(and for some reason the super not having any drones or neuts fitted). Self destruct is an option for when you don't want to sit there all day.

Point of self-destruction is prevention of loot, not the killmail. Face it, no matter whether the killmail is made or not, you still forced your enemy to self-destruct and his loss is real.

Making the self-destruction impossible with some module on enemy ship makes no sense neither from game mechanic nor fiction point of view. Not only it would prevent the valid game mechanic of denying loot to the enemy, how can you explain someone to disable the explosives on enemy ship remotely? By magic?

E-peen don't count as a valid reason for changing the way the game works. Grow up.

Now this is one sensible idea.

And if you have large enough group already, but your resources are stretched thin?

In recent PL vs -A- titan showdown two -A- titans were destroyed by PL and appeared on the killmail. Other six self-destructed.

And PL had 22 titans I believe and hundreds of subcaps at their disposal. No alliance can bring much more.

Except your idea of balance is completely arbitrary. You dislike pvp so you disagree with every sensible proposal about pvp out of spite.

They couldn't choose. They couldn't kill all eight of them in time to prevent self-destruction.

Please don't use libel towards me. This has nothing to do with spite. And I do like PVP.

They couldn't clear all of them in time so they obviously focused DPS on ones they could kill in time (Or the pilot was silly enough not to self D when it was obvious he was going down without time for another DD)

That is why it has a timer. It is balanced. Giving a killmail for a SD will lessen the need of group play (even if it is less in that particular case) and thus I am against it.

Giving them the killmail would also be my idea of a solution. Its rather discouraging to building a kiting ship to catch, as was my case, a raven navy issue and widdle it down to nothing all by your self like the big ol pimp that you are... just to see him self destruct and rob you of any proof of your accomplishment.


ORRRRRRRRRRRRR..... now here's where it gets interesting...

change it so that if you self destruct, a HUGE percentage of your modules drop and alot more than normal can be salvaged from the wreck. Lets say, because it was a much more calculated destruction of your ship than having mis-aimed holes blown through your hull.
This way, you are going to lose either way, by feeding your enemies your mods and salvage or by losing it on a mail. This will, Im pretty sure, encourage people to just suck it up and die or self destruct strategically rather than spitefully, so that an ally can scoop their stuff and run or they can come back after their side wins the fight but took some losses, and scoop their stuff.




All this or drastically increase self destruct time on aggressed ships so it can no longer be used as a little hateful way to get the last word in on someone who is kickin the crap out of you fair and square.

not supported, if someone wants to self destruct, there should never be anythign prolonging the fight