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Atticus Fynch
#1 - 2012-01-02 14:30:20 UTC
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs, why not give EVE racial bonuses? I dont mean the skills that you start out with which everyone can eventually study, but special technical/combat/defense abilities that only your race can have.

I would also add special ship mods that only your race can use. If dont properly it will be balanced out.
It would make the races more distinct and give the game some personality IMO.

I was watching combat in RIFT and each character had specific racial bonuses that made the fighting unique, yet balanced.

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Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#2 - 2012-01-02 14:36:17 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs, why not give EVE racial bonuses? I dont mean the skills that you start out with which everyone can eventually study, but special technical/combat/defense abilities that only your race can have.

I would also add special ship mods that only your race can use. If dont properly it will be balanced out.
It would make the races more distinct and give the game some personality IMO.

I was watching combat in RIFT and each character had specific racial bonuses that made the fighting unique, yet balanced.



before the obligitory "get back to wow" post...

Eve used to have racial bonuses to attributes. These were removed (thankfully).

TBH They aren't necessary, and I will not be plus liking your post.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-01-02 14:37:47 UTC
we had something like that.. before the remap time..

plenty of achura was created Big smile
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-01-02 14:38:03 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs, why not give EVE racial bonuses?
Because then we're back to everyone making Caldari / Achuras again.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-01-02 14:40:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs, why not give EVE racial bonuses?
Because then we're back to everyone making Caldari / Achuras again.


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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-01-02 14:43:16 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Guilty as charged, Tippia. Pirate
Indeed, even though it was kind of by accident.

I had no idea how the game worked when I made this character, but based on… oh, everything RPG-like ever, I guessed that charisma was a dump stat (even more so in a player-driven MMO), so from there on, it was just a matter of figuring out which build had the least charisma.
Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#7 - 2012-01-02 14:49:22 UTC
As much as I would like to say I was above such petty min/maxing, my alt is Achura :(

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-01-02 15:05:31 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
we had something like that.. before the remap time..

plenty of achura was created Big smile



Achura were easy on the eyes too.

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Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-01-02 15:13:57 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs


There is no possible way you could follow this statement with anything worthwhile.

Unless this "racial bonus" was "100% penalty to creating shit threads if your character name is Atticus Fynch"
Mokokan
Transtar Services
#10 - 2012-01-02 15:14:23 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs, why not give EVE racial bonuses? I dont mean the skills that you start out with which everyone can eventually study, but special technical/combat/defense abilities that only your race can have.

I would also add special ship mods that only your race can use. If dont properly it will be balanced out.
It would make the races more distinct and give the game some personality IMO.

I was watching combat in RIFT and each character had specific racial bonuses that made the fighting unique, yet balanced.


We have that already in the form of ship bonuses. For example, Gallente recons & EAS's get the Warp jamming bonus, the Minmatar get Web range bonus, etc.

Humans are humans, and that kinda seems like the direction CCP is going with the skill changes of late. Not sure we need to go very far into evolutionary changes. Just seems kinda strange. I would assume you could explain away racial differences as cultural, but again, CCP seems (to me) to be moving away from that direction.
Alara IonStorm
#11 - 2012-01-02 15:18:24 UTC
Tippia wrote:
I knew that charisma is and will always be a dump stat

Fix'ed

Poor Charisma.

Also screw racial bonuses. I don't want to role an Alt and train it for a year just to fly a Hurricane effectively.
Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#12 - 2012-01-02 15:28:47 UTC
This guy, again? Seriously?
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#13 - 2012-01-02 15:34:53 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs, why not give EVE racial bonuses? I dont mean the skills that you start out with which everyone can eventually study, but special technical/combat/defense abilities that only your race can have.

I would also add special ship mods that only your race can use. If dont properly it will be balanced out.
It would make the races more distinct and give the game some personality IMO.

I was watching combat in RIFT and each character had specific racial bonuses that made the fighting unique, yet balanced.


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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#14 - 2012-01-02 15:36:28 UTC
Actually the system does exist, it is with the ship, not the pod pilot. Adding such a thing to your pilots DNA does nothing but eventually force one race to be the main one (which would negate the whole point of implementing them in the first place, while pissing off everybody else).

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-01-02 15:39:13 UTC
Knowing what the outcome will be for this thread already I am going to instead just be a little ***** and complain about the OP saying "Borrowing from WoW and other MMO's". Why is it that when it comes to MMO's that everybody compares to WoW when WoW borrowed or stole everything that it is from every other MMO that is out there or came before it?

I ******* hate WoW...it ruined MMO's by standardizing everything to a very low standard. It is the good companies that break the mold and try something new that are great. EvE and Age of Conan are good examples of good **** that came before and after WoW. This coming from a guy that has played just about every MMO since Meridian 59. God I miss Asherons Call...

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Spearhead Endeavors
#16 - 2012-01-02 15:45:03 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Borrowing from WoW and other MMOs

Cool
Not emptyquotin.

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Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#17 - 2012-01-02 16:18:04 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
we had something like that.. before the remap time..

plenty of achura was created Big smile



Achura were easy on the eyes too.

And they still are.

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Orlacc
#18 - 2012-01-02 16:21:24 UTC
I think it is time for some non-humanoid races.

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#19 - 2012-01-02 16:24:39 UTC
Well wanted to show why borrowing from wow and others is a bad idea, by going to their forums and posting a terrible thread here, I found out they arent so different from you and I.

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Nyx Na'gorg
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-01-02 16:29:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyx Na'gorg
I think we can all agree that the Gallente/Gallente Master Race needs buffing.
Personally the only "Racials" we need are in the game now, How the ships in-game run and are meant to be played are iconic.

Caldari Missiles/Shields

Gallente Drones/..Drones

Amarr Lasers/shiny ships

Minmatar duct tape/rust

EDIT:
to clarify,

How Empires/Pirate ships are meant to be captained are the 'racials' of their individual nation/factions.
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