Ships & Modules

Dear fellow citizens of the State,

it has come to my attention that recent new ship designs of the Caldari States have a dangerous tendency to abandon superior Caldari design principles, usually in favor of inferior Minmatar technology.

Let me present some examples:

1. The Hawk

Defense of Caldari ships should be based on superior shield technology - shields that should be resistant enough to damage that they do not need extra boosting (unlike Minmatar shield technology, which seems to rely on extra shield boosting to make up for inferior shield resistances).
However, the Hawk deviates from this principle by abandoning resistance bonuses in favor of increased shield boosting.

The Hawk should use Caldari shields, for an example on how to do this right, see its bigger brother, the Eagle.


2. The Golem

Not only does the Golems design eschew superior Caldari shielding technology in favor of increased shield boosting, no, it also uses Minmatar-style target paiting bonuses in favor of weapons that actually hit the target without using such crutches.


3. The Tengu

Instead of developing Caldari shielding technology further, the Tengu seems to rely completely on Minmatar-style shield boosting (now "improved" from +7.5%/lvl to +10%/lvl with the "right" subsystem).

This is an outrage. The Tengu should be the pinnacle of Caldari ship design, not a declaration of surrender to someone elses design principles!

If this dangerous trend continues, we will soon be flying scrapheaps held together by duct tape. It needs to be stopped.

Minmatar/Caldari is one of the best race combos a pilot can be.

We make beautiful mulatto babies, and kill lots of stuff. You jelly.

And it doesn't stop with bonuses Look at the Naga. Flimsy Minmatar design. The whole thing is a huge shot trap.

Nothing compared to solid designs as the Rokh or Moa.

It's like they designed ships....to give you more options...

Nope, Eve population is still 3/4 Caldari, they just all train Winmatar.

By contrast, I feel that many of my culture's ships have been compromised by inferior caldari leanings towards such things as missiles. Out of the three major battleship classes, only one is available without a split weapon system.
Battlecruisers sport missile launchers where turrets should be. Or, worse, I am recommended to use energy neutralisers like our sworn enemies.
It's an insult.
Drones are an acceptable compromise. They're useful, and the gallente are at least tolerable. Even if they ARE decadent.
Good chefs, though. I make sure to keep one around for long-haul flights. Long-limb roe and spiced wine? Far better than fried vent-rat.

It may have started with the creation of the Cormorant. Recall that the description of the Cormorant says this



The Cormorant also has the ability to fit 7x guns, also suggesting the involvement of a Minmatar contractor in the design. There must have been Caldari subcontractors however, who may have worked on the 8th slot missile launcher, and the mid and low slot layouts.

The Flycatcher which is based on it however was designed by Kaalakiota and is a missile boat.

The Minmatar physical integrator who designed the Cormorant may have also been able to get further work subcontracting on the Tengu because the entire Tech 3 rationale is sort of a duct tape and hacking design philosophy and work subcontracting on the Golem's Electronic Warfare systems for reasons known only to Lai Dai.

(Interestingly enough some of the missiles themselves are also of Minmatar origin. While usually the kinetic missiles are Caldari in design, this is not always the case. For example the Bloodclaw light missile and the Wrath Cruise Missile are of Minmatar design (With Gallente help for the guidance system of the Wrath Cruise Missile). (Also the Thunderbolt Heavy Missile is a Caldari designed EMP missile).)

Shields? just a flimsy buffer. Armour? Bulk out the ship design. Structure? Now your doin' it right like a true Gallente.

That's utter BS trolling...
The active shield tanking bonuses are first of all extremely important for PvE. The Golem is a Marauder, a ship class intended primarily for PvE. Slot efficiency without such bonuses would be pretty bad. The same goes for all active shield tankers: with a 2-3 slot tank, and a proper booster (those are expensive not only cause are rare, but also cause of the high demand, for a good reason), you can achieve tank ratings drakes (guess the whine-about OP means) need 6 slots + rigs to maintain passively.

The Hawk is not a "PvE" ship per se, but in times when no AS was being used, the Hawk was used as small plex tanker etc - a role no frig or no passive frig fitting could.

If the OP wishes for "passive shield regen tanks" etc, he could look again in the Caldari line-up. Most of the ships capable of the job, most of the times the best at it, are Caldari (T1/T2/T3), faction Caldari or Pirate @ Caldari related (Rattler). You don't need more.

The shield boosting bonus increases damage mitigation capability by 37.5%. A traditional Caldari "+25% shield resistance" bonus would reduce incoming damage by 25%. Converted to damage mitigation capability by shield boosting, that would be (1/0.75), or 33%. This would only be slightly worse than the shield boosting bonus in raw damage mitigation capability, while offering additional benefits like being able to have a bigger buffer tank for fleet ... "situations".

In this light, the absence of a standard Caldari shield resistance bonus in favor of a shield boosting bonus is pretty incomprehensible.

A shield resistance bonus improves any shield tank (boosted, passive or buffer).