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Citizen20100211442
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2012-01-04 23:46:59 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Citizen20100211442 wrote:


I would like to see how you would transport 1.5 tons , or pull trailer into hill with your ***-looking japanese or french car. Also USA is bigger and less infrastructured than Europe, so more universal car is allways good. For comparision poor russians in Siberia drives Ural's and various tracked vehicles even as simple A to B transportation, maybe you want argue with them about economy and convince them to drive Smart?


Yes, this is usually what Earl and Jebediah are doing, while driving in their 1995 Chevy Silverado.

NOT.

FFS, most people buy trucks just to feel big and bad, and they don't even bother to use the god damn things for towing or carrying stuff that they couldn't use an economy class sedan for.

Try harder to justify your idiocy.


Called me idiot in 2 threads, and fortified your "facts" with some kind of names and surnames (I suppose they are some kind of US TV-series stars). Why don't you lift your fat ass from couch and take a deep breath outside?

To be, or not to be, that's the question.
Selinate
#102 - 2012-01-05 00:01:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
Citizen20100211442 wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Citizen20100211442 wrote:


I would like to see how you would transport 1.5 tons , or pull trailer into hill with your ***-looking japanese or french car. Also USA is bigger and less infrastructured than Europe, so more universal car is allways good. For comparision poor russians in Siberia drives Ural's and various tracked vehicles even as simple A to B transportation, maybe you want argue with them about economy and convince them to drive Smart?


Yes, this is usually what Earl and Jebediah are doing, while driving in their 1995 Chevy Silverado.

NOT.

FFS, most people buy trucks just to feel big and bad, and they don't even bother to use the god damn things for towing or carrying stuff that they couldn't use an economy class sedan for.

Try harder to justify your idiocy.


Called me idiot in 2 threads, and fortified your "facts" with some kind of names and surnames (I suppose they are some kind of US TV-series stars). Why don't you lift your fat ass from couch and take a deep breath outside?


There the names of the idiots who rant with the same kind of misinformed stupidity you're blowing off in both threads. Try looking them up.

And you want to know where I get my knowledge? From living in the U.S. for my entire life and seeing wasteful people drive around big cars, complain about how those darned liberal europeans live their lives and so forth, when their own country is in the **** hole itself, and we're in this **** hole because of idiots like them. The way they live their lives and the ******* politicans they vote for ruin EVERYBODY'S life.

So yes, you're an idiot.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2012-01-05 00:05:16 UTC
I used my F150 to move, did it in 1 trip as my truck has been Beverly Hillbillied with a flatbed on top over the big dohickey that goes over the back that holds stuff.

Got my entire apartment into the truck Cool

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#104 - 2012-01-05 00:27:48 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I used my F150 to move, did it in 1 trip as my truck has been Beverly Hillbillied with a flatbed on top over the big dohickey that goes over the back that holds stuff.

Got my entire apartment into the truck Cool


You totaly drive around in this

Incidently I went digging arounf and found that the F150 gets the same MPG as this
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2012-01-05 01:03:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I used my F150 to move, did it in 1 trip as my truck has been Beverly Hillbillied with a flatbed on top over the big dohickey that goes over the back that holds stuff.

Got my entire apartment into the truck Cool


You totaly drive around in this

Incidently I went digging arounf and found that the F150 gets the same MPG as this


Still gets better gas mileage than the manliest truck around, incidentally I want one Cool

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2012-01-05 01:43:23 UTC
Confirming America is full of wasteful vehicles. Everywhere I go I see SUV's and vans with only the driver, and trucks of all kinds with nothing loaded. Trying to justify it is idiotic.

Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar -Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! -Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart -rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. -Atticus Fynch
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-01-05 01:46:31 UTC
VKhaun Vex wrote:
Confirming America is full of wasteful vehicles. Everywhere I go I see SUV's and vans with only the driver, and trucks of all kinds with nothing loaded. Trying to justify it is idiotic.


No justify... we do it because we can Cool

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#108 - 2012-01-05 02:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Wilkus
I'm more of a Chevy guy myself, I just used the F-150 as an example. My European vehicle is a late 70's Chevy Van with a brand new 350, 4bbl carb and a dual exhaust. Gets about 13 MPH on the highway, and responds nicely when you romp on the gas when the light changes. Lots of fun taking it down to Germany, picking up a few hundred Liters of Beer, and getting it over 100 MPH on the autobahn without having to look out for speed traps.

My Chevy in the US has an early 80's 454. 30 years on, its still doing everything I ask of it. Leaks a little oil nowadays, but compression and rings are just fine. Gets about 7-8 MPG. Torque literally rocks the vehicle side to side, and sounds like a beast when those carb secondaries snap open. One of lifes guilty pleasures.

But whatever - Its just find it amusing how people pop off in here...

"Huh huh, Americans are fat and lazy and their cars are big and slow" without even knowing the basics about engine performance.

Baltec apparently is French, and cannot be faulted for knowing nothing about the subject. If the best my county had to offer was Peugeot, I'd probably remain ignorant of the topic as well.

Selinate seems to be your typical self-loathing American liberal who resents the choices his peers make. Calling them idiots makes him feel special, elite, better than them. He has a problem with freedom - because it allows others to make choices that he disapproves of. Really, its none of his business, but it makes him angry, nonetheless.

There are plenty of logical, rational, performance related reasons to want to own a large displacement American engine. I've laid a few of them out here in simple enough terms, but no, I get more of the same idiotic replies:

"You don't 'need' an engine like that."
- Who the hell are you to decide what I (or any body else) 'need'? Some people need them for work, others for play. Its their money. Just because people also use them for running errands in town doesn't mean you get to make such a judgement. People who think like that tend to be dangerous authoritarians who get off on controlling people.

"People only buy them are guys that want to feel 'big and bad'."
- My guess, you had hippie parents that dressed you in pink and gave you dolls to play with instead of cars.
Where I come from, guys just like cars. Knowing how to turn a wrench is just something guys are expected to be able to do.
Guys also tend to like outdoor activities that require towing capacity - just not as many women interested in 4x4ing, hauling a dead caribou, or racing around Broad Pass on a snowmachine.

And if I am going to work on my own vehicles I don't want something with loads of computers, tight spaces and expensive parts. I want a 70's era Chevy Blazer where I can SIT INSIDE the engine compartment, with room to spare.
Mistress Motion
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2012-01-05 05:32:09 UTC
I'm not sure why the bulbs are considered to always waste big part of the energy it uses, and no-one ever talks what happens to that energy.

This might not be true for big part of US, but much more in scandinavia where they have been banning those for some time already. Now we know that ~90% of the energy the bulb uses is transferred to heat. Living in areas where houses have to be heated most of the year, that energy is certainly not wasted, since it directly decreases the amount of heating you would have to do by other means. While probably not as efficient, it's still not wasted.

Besides, I hate the harsh flickering light from fluorescents. And most people living in cold conditions know what happens when you turn on a fluorescent lamp in a -25c weather outside your house. Meh, wait for 5 minutes before it starts to actually emit decent light. And not to mention the overpriced "energy saving bulbs", which have loads of toxic electronics inside, and break half-way in their promised life-span.
Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#110 - 2012-01-05 06:33:50 UTC
[quote=Akita T]Also, those so hung up on liberties and such, how come you weren't raging about having smoking banned in some public places ? I mean, raaawgh, liberties taken away and such...[/quote

We voice our opinion, but it goes unheard both liberals and conservatives hate smokers.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
Firestorm Delta
Aphotic Machina
#111 - 2012-01-05 08:21:33 UTC
You know this has probably been said several times but the issue isn't so much what the government is doing, it's that us Americans keep putting these same idiots in office. The very same people who pass bills like SOPA and bickering with each other, instead of trying to straighten out the budget, or deal with any of the other far more important issues that have been building up since we started having career politicians. Then again this is America, we hop on band wagons then complain when things don't work out well...

Anyway should probably say something on topic here.
What bothers me about the light bulb shenanigans is not the fact that they are doing it, its the idea that they are controlling what we can and can not buy when this is a capitalist market. In what way is the government stepping in so directly on the issues of light bulbs considered capitalist? I don't remember them being so forceful with automotives for the longest time, and now suddenly with the whole desire to save energy they bring the hammer down on light bulbs. The effort it took to put this through in the first place, and the effort now to fight it could have been used much better in my opinion.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#112 - 2012-01-05 08:35:08 UTC
Firestorm Delta wrote:
You know this has probably been said several times but the issue isn't so much what the government is doing, it's that us Americans keep putting these same idiots in office. The very same people who pass bills like SOPA and bickering with each other, instead of trying to straighten out the budget, or deal with any of the other far more important issues that have been building up since we started having career politicians. Then again this is America, we hop on band wagons then complain when things don't work out well...

Anyway should probably say something on topic here.
What bothers me about the light bulb shenanigans is not the fact that they are doing it, its the idea that they are controlling what we can and can not buy when this is a capitalist market. In what way is the government stepping in so directly on the issues of light bulbs considered capitalist? I don't remember them being so forceful with automotives for the longest time, and now suddenly with the whole desire to save energy they bring the hammer down on light bulbs. The effort it took to put this through in the first place, and the effort now to fight it could have been used much better in my opinion.


Yes, this is just as bad as when they made it illegal to buy black people isn't it? Evil

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#113 - 2012-01-05 09:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Firestorm Delta wrote:
You know this has probably been said several times but the issue isn't so much what the government is doing, it's that us Americans keep putting these same idiots in office. The very same people who pass bills like SOPA and bickering with each other, instead of trying to straighten out the budget, or deal with any of the other far more important issues that have been building up since we started having career politicians. Then again this is America, we hop on band wagons then complain when things don't work out well..


A very simple way to save a load of money in the budget would be to scrap subsidized fuel for private use.

Herr Wilkus wrote:


Baltec apparently is French, and cannot be faulted for knowing nothing about the subject. If the best my county had to offer was Peugeot, I'd probably remain ignorant of the topic as well.



While I do drive a french car I am infact British and as everyone knows Britian has the best racing teams and technology on the planet.

Herr Wilkus wrote:


My Chevy in the US has an early 80's 454. 30 years on, its still doing everything I ask of it. Leaks a little oil nowadays, but compression and rings are just fine. Gets about 7-8 MPG. Torque literally rocks the vehicle side to side, and sounds like a beast when those carb secondaries snap open. One of lifes guilty pleasures.



You get the same MPG as one of these fully loaded and you think thats good....
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2012-01-05 16:01:21 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Riedle wrote:


Uhhhmm.. When was the last time you were in a new pickup? They are very nice on the inside and ride like a Cadillac. They are some of the nicest vehicles on the road from a comfort perspective not to mention the utility of them.


This is what top gear thinks of the F150


Well they had to tear it all apart to put the stearing column in the RHS for one.
But if you are content to let others do your thinking for you then fine.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2012-01-05 16:02:40 UTC
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
Riedle wrote:

Quote:
Sure people might need something that can carry stuff around, still doesn't explain the fact that they are inefficient and crudely made.


Uhhhmm.. When was the last time you were in a new pickup? They are very nice on the inside and ride like a Cadillac. They are some of the nicest vehicles on the road from a comfort perspective not to mention the utility of them.


Exactly, you choose to compare it to a Cadillac and really believe that's a badge of quality.



lol ok sure. whatever floats your boat I don't need your approval to enjoy my kick ass truck! yee haw right?
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2012-01-05 16:08:18 UTC
Quote:
Baltec apparently is French, and cannot be faulted for knowing nothing about the subject. If the best my county had to offer was Peugeot, I'd probably remain ignorant of the topic as well.

Selinate seems to be your typical self-loathing American liberal who resents the choices his peers make. Calling them idiots makes him feel special, elite, better than them. He has a problem with freedom - because it allows others to make choices that he disapproves of. Really, its none of his business, but it makes him angry, nonetheless.


LOL Nailed it!

Rim shot!
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#117 - 2012-01-05 16:08:20 UTC
Riedle wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Riedle wrote:


Uhhhmm.. When was the last time you were in a new pickup? They are very nice on the inside and ride like a Cadillac. They are some of the nicest vehicles on the road from a comfort perspective not to mention the utility of them.


This is what top gear thinks of the F150


Well they had to tear it all apart to put the stearing column in the RHS for one.
But if you are content to let others do your thinking for you then fine.


I have seen a few in person, every year some American manufacturer gets hopeful and drags a few of the silly things to various auto shows. Once I took one for a test drive for lolz too.

It was at a Vauxhall dealer along with some other Chevrolets, I honestly think those HGVs Baltec was linking would feel nicer to drive.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#118 - 2012-01-05 17:42:01 UTC
Riedle wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Riedle wrote:


Uhhhmm.. When was the last time you were in a new pickup? They are very nice on the inside and ride like a Cadillac. They are some of the nicest vehicles on the road from a comfort perspective not to mention the utility of them.


This is what top gear thinks of the F150


Well they had to tear it all apart to put the stearing column in the RHS for one.
But if you are content to let others do your thinking for you then fine.


When you send a car to a show that has 300 million viewers you make an effortRoll
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#119 - 2012-01-05 17:43:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Having watched many debates about US vs European vehicles, my conclussion is that American do something else than transportation with their vehicles.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#120 - 2012-01-05 19:32:01 UTC
The needs for vehicles in North America and that of Europe is different hence you get different vehicles. Pretty simple really.

I like all types of vehicles and I don’t actually own a truck although I would like to someday soon as I want to get a camper.

It makes equal sense to have a truck in the centre of London than it does to take a smart car off roading. Different environment and different culture.

Why can’t we all get along?

=)