EVE General Discussion

The original more elegantly put question was.

If it could buy time along with NeX products and is just as tradeable as a plex?

The original post was to start trying to draw in some level headed people hopefull and I got a few of them repling on both sides of the fence at least.

To be fair and honest, I had no intentions of this being a pro-aurum thread, I wanted to draw people in so I can throw a few ideas thier way and hopefully let them tear it apart or posisbly gain new insight as well. Though the people I am looking for are not in the burn the whole expansion down folks just the ones who do have a problem with the store.

I do thank the pro-aurums keeping the argument going and getting more reponses out and I now have a series of questions to ask now that I got a better idea of whats up.

Please no one liners of burning the plex down, they're not helping the conversation at all, at least explain your stance.

The new questions are generic but the items listed are supposed to give an idea to what is being asked for in its examples many other things can find themselves in those spots. Some are hopefully rhetorical questions though. I dont mind if you free form answer the issues.

Store Contents
Would you be okay with the Store if the only thing they ever sold was the clothes?

What about alterations of ingame items such as ship paint jobs and sparkely engine trials provided thier is a decent default version?

What about services such as change of character via Gene sculpting token to change race gender and apperance?

What about prenium options such as HD nebulas or Corporate Logo Packages?

What about items normally sold by NPCs only such as skill books?

Game Play
How would you feel if the NeX clothing be avialable though other ingame means such as loyalty point stores?

Would you consider buying with MT if the clothing option seems that out of reach or major inconvience ingame such as you being a loyal Gallente naval officer and are unable to get the reputation needed for the Amarrian Naval officer uniform?

How would you feel about clothing that was exclusive to ingame means of obtaining such as admrial's attire from the FW LP store?
What about clothing that is exclusive to the NeX as well?

What if you could buy clothes currently

Game Interaction

What would you think if the store offered both pernament and a much chepaer non pernament version of clothes?

Would you like a closest to save outfits quickly similar to ship fitting for certain occasions and to re-equipped your lost clothes?

Would you like to get blueprints for basic clothes to 'research' the modification of thier color materials and apperance/cuts?

Should blueprints make only destroyable clothes?
Should they use PI resources?
use FiS resources?
use NeX resources?
a combination?

What about allowing the BPO produced destroyable clothes?
Would you be okay with the NeX selling blank contracts to make them pernament?

I'd rather see NeX and aurum removed completely.

This. Hard.

Eve is a sandbox, every item should be gettable by in-game means (barring special one-off unique stuff like the Alliance Tourney Rewards/Holiday pressies). The entire MT concept breaks one of the most important core rule of the sandbox.

Amusingly, the NEX store would make a pretty good ISK sink though.

I didnt know about LoS missiles or random gates. If Id only joined two years sooner.

I do know they removed AOE missiles (which is why torpedos still have effing huge animations) :(

Its still a Door.

Get rid of Nex.

BURN THE NEX STORE! CLEANSE! PURGE! KILL!

The NeX should be removed because it adds nothing to the long term viability of EVE.

If CCP truly wants EVE to grow and prosper into the future then they need to do it through expanding gameplay rather than with the NeX, which will ultimately become a detrimental cancer to the game.

Whats your problem.

It would steal gameplay from the game regardless — from day one, they've talked about the things now consigned to the NeX as being an opening for new player industries, but then they robbed the game of that content by shoving it into the NeX at the last second. It was always intended to be released, and was always planned (and budgeted) as part of Incarna — NeX or no NeX, it would have been developed.

Moreover, if they wanted to generate revenue through the NeX, they would have chosen an actual MT business model instead — for some reason, they did the exact opposite, so it never had any chance to pay for itself to begin with. They've decided to go for low-volume / high-cost / non-repeating sales, and that just screams “no profit”. Looking at how they've talked about it, this non-profit status was known from the instant it was chosen. For CCP, the NeX does indeed serve a purpose, but that is a completely different one: to reduce liabilities in their books… but that is not the same thing as “profit” and “paying for itself” (and this is why the unprofitable setup actually works).
…except that without out-of-game means, they won't exist.