Ships & Modules

To help counter the hisec miner suicide gankers, I would like to propose a modification to the Orca that will allow it to be configured either as a command and mining support ship (as is now) or fit mining turrets to operate as a super miner.

I would like to see 4 high slots 3 of which can fit turrets and with reasonable bonuses such as 20% mining yield increase per level of Industrial Command Ships.

When the pricing of the new tier 3 Battlecruisers steadies they will increasingly be used for high end hisec suicide ganking. The mining Orca would do a lot to once again even up the balance.

The other Command Ships can fit turrets so why not the Orca ?

Ships and Modules is not Features and Ideas

I personally wouldn't see any harm with giving it remote shield repping bonuses, more slots, more drones, and a bonus to drone damage.

It will be a true little brother to the Rorqual.

No. The Orca is doing a fine job on its own. Turning it into a mining ship will only allow the bots to depress the mineral market more and then ultimately ruin an already-under-appreciated career.

If you're flying a Hulk and don't want to lose it, then fly a Covetor as that will only set you back 30mil while mining with a hauler support.

Also, Cindy Marco is right about the Orca being a command ship. It's meant to provide mining support in terms of hauling and boosting yield. It can also double as a support for defensive mining in terms of boosts to armor and shield.

I think a lot of you are missing what he's saying. First, the yield would suck. 3 mining lasers w/100% bonus at max skills isn't even close to the yield of a mining rohk or abaddon.

I don't see much harm in it. The only addition to what's already there is more cargohold for the ore. It would benefit the AFK miners, at least they think it would until someone showed up with a couple tornados/talos/naga.

I'm not missing the point. The problem with the OP's point is that he's not taking into account the laws of economics. And don't forget that an Orca can be super tanked to the max with no less than 240,000 EHP on average (almost 300,000 EHP if you can pull it off). I don't want to keep repeating myself here about what could possibly happen here if the OP's idea of using the Orca as a new mining vessel was implemented. Ask anyone else here who has at least some idea of how economics work and they will tell you the same thing.

What does EHP have to do with economics? If people want to mine for yield, they'll use a hulk. I doubt any bots would change.

The issue I see with this orca, is it enables people to play AFK for long periods of time. The cargohold is massive, and it has a dedicated ore hold. People could start mining and just check up on it every 30 minutes. You don't have to worry about flippers, and barely have to worry about gankers. I don't think that's what CCP wants to become of the already very AFKable mining profession.

Cheap tornados to kill overtanked orcas...

I support OP's idea.

But mining more makes it easy to build the ships we all love and know..... The ships that keep you flying and shooting and pvping.... Some people don't mine to sell it, but build something to sell, like ammo and ships and mods. Plus a orca is a command ship, it should stay that way. If you in a orca then you running a mining op or hauling something.

Nope… no turrets. So why should the Orca have them?