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Alpha Blues

Society's Downfall
#1 - 2017-07-29 07:32:01 UTC
I know this is probably not going to be received very well, with the whole mentality of "don't fly what you cant afford to lose" but as an alpha, flying a cruiser with the best fit i can afford/skill into, and getting hunted down repeatedly by people in Legions and Myrmadons is just disheartening. I have ran out of ideas for ISK making outside of grinding 5 hours worth of hisec L1/2 missions for pennies.

I really enjoy this game, and have been trying to plex my account through in-game funds, but my wallet just keeps shrinking. I know I'm not the only one that this happens to, I also understand that solo alphas are just easy pickings for people who honestly probably have nothing better to do, but damn.....
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2017-07-29 09:12:22 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
First, welcome to Eve.

Secondly, since you're in an NPC Corp I don't understand how you're constantly being hunted by other players. Now I can understand it if you're flying in Low Security space. If so I suggest that you stay in High Security space for a while and build up your wallet.

Now you won't get rich doing missions but it is steady income that over time can finance buying skillbooks and upgrading your ship fits. To really make some quick ISK, I suggest running anomalies that show up in the scanner box as 100% warp to. Those little combat sites can be completed very quickly and have a small chance to escalate into expedition where you might get some Faction loot. They also have a chance to spawn Commander NPC's that might hold Faction loot, also the Commander wrecks will give T2 salvage.

Salvaging wrecks is another way to build up some extra ISK. You can find wrecks to salvage in a lot of different places, in Asteroid belts, in mission and exploration sites, etc. Probably the easiest way to find wrecks is to ask players in local chat at major mission hubs, most will gladly give you bookmarks to their wrecks.

Speaking of exploration sites, running the hacking sites requires very little expense to do and can net you some good ISK in return, just have to be willing to travel around due to a lot of competition.

Personally I think you would be better off paying for a subscription instead of trying to PLEX your account right at first. With a paid subscription you can enjoy the game and not worry about making enough ISK to buy PLEX, especially since there's a lot of other things you'll want to buy to get your character established, such as skillbooks, implants, modules, ships, etc.

Anyway, I hope you stick with the game, it actually gets easier as your character gets more developed. Good luck and may you have a long rewarding career here in Eve.

3Ra Syndicate
#3 - 2017-07-29 14:21:58 UTC
Forget plexing your account. Don't make a game work. Just sub it with CC or paypal and enjoy the game.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#4 - 2017-07-29 23:34:15 UTC
Siynful wrote:
I also understand that solo alphas are just easy pickings for people who honestly probably have nothing better to do, but damn.....

If that is your experience, then join a group of vets and

Remove standings and insurance.

Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2017-07-30 03:21:52 UTC
Siynful wrote:

have been trying to plex my account through in-game funds,

This is your biggest mistake. This is a subscription based game. Trying to pay for this game through in game funds ( while possible ) is the surest way to turn this game into a job and take something that was fun and make it work. You can: stay and alpha, pay for the game with real life money, or trying PLEXing your way through the game and eventually wind up becoming disheartened and quitting.

There are lots of ways to make decent isk in this game. However most of them require a good amount of experience and game knowledge. You can team up with vets and gain guided experience while working with other, more experienced, players. Another option is to go it solo and learn all of your lessons the hard way.

Of the two the school of hard-knocks is probably the fastest way to get really good at this game but also the most painful and expensive. Playing with vets and getting advice while PvPing in groups is a more laid back and comfortable way to gain experience and knowledge of this game.

For example ( with regards to your provi losses ) if you were in a corp that was active locally and had access to intel channels then you'd have known that those "reds" were coming from several jumps out and would have known that they had hostile intent as soon as they showed up red or been cautious of them if they showed up as neutral in local chat. I've lived in Provi for years and with the right access and a little experience you can hang onto your PvE ships for a decently long amount of time. Those ships can definitely earn your far more than they cost to replace.

Also are you insuring your ships? If you are flying in low or null sec you should always insure your ships or at least until you start keep ships for longer than the duration of an insurance contract.

This game is a true MMO and the answer to most problems in this game is friends. Friendship really is the best ship in Eve and that is more than just a cleaver pun.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

Netan MalDoran
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2017-07-31 00:37:48 UTC
Just saying as a solo pvp'er I dont use cruisers, for the casual player theyre gonna just be a bigger target and a larger isk sink. I use frigs and dessies and have a way higher isk:fun ratio. (Although i will occasionally take out a solo anti-frig thorax) Pirate

"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!

Falcon's truth

Chocolate Pickle
Empire of Disrespect Dishonor Apathy
#7 - 2017-08-01 05:19:48 UTC
Having looked up your killboard, the issue is that you're flying in nullsec and lowsec.

It's fantastic that you're taking risks and leaving the coddling embrace of highsec so early in your career, but you're flying about in ships not fit for fighting other people. Go back to highsec to make your ISKies. Then get a few frigates and go back to nullsec to kill unsuspecting pilots.
Memphis Baas
#8 - 2017-08-01 12:33:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
All MMO games have 2 grinds: grind xp / level up, and grind money. This game gives you the xp (skill points) for free, even if you're not logged in, just takes time (as Alpha you're getting the "xp" at half the speed). But the grind for cash remains.

And as you've discovered, it's quite a grind. CCP makes it possible to make ISK, but not easy. They want you to buy PLEX or a subscription with $$, and not be able to easily gather enough pixel cash that you can play for free and reduce their profits. It's harsh, but they're a business, and the prices they're charging for PLEX or subscription aren't more than what other MMO's are charging.

In addition, the alpha skills are especially limiting in the money-making roles (trading, industry manufacturing, mining, planetary mining, level 4 missions / null sec ratting and anoms, skill farming), because we can make thousands of free alpha accounts and CCP didn't want to ruin the economy.

So that's the situation that you're in.

Solo anyones are easy pickings, not just Alphas. And this is a PVP game; you enter the low-sec, null, or wormhole spaces, your PVP flag is assumed to be on. The locals are organized with defense channels and people watching and scanning your ship; you don't see this chatter but fleets are assembling to take you and other intruders out as soon as you enter.

Providence is neutral-friendly, but if you attack their people they'll set your standings to "pirate" and you'll be red and hunted. Everywhere else in null-sec, newbies are considered enemy spies, attacked on sight. NBSI.

Game isn't easy solo. PVP isn't a money-maker. And Alphas are limited in PVE money-making activities.