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War Dec Ideas for 2012

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Endeavour Starfleet
#81 - 2012-01-03 01:14:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
Hit the nail on the head with that one Mars.

Lots of hatred that newer players aren't lining up to be targets (Or a labor force) for bittervets in EVE in my opinion. Only way I can explain not wanting to allow basic grouping with a name without the risk of gankville.

Not being able to run a POS is not enough for Corp lite? 20 percent tax because don't don't to be a easy gank target?? And so far as suggesting 30 day penalties for those that leave corp during wardec? Again W...T...H?!

Thank geez CCP saw how badly the old system was out of control and allowed dec shields. Should have been removed until it was redone but I can understand the need for big alliances to wardec each other to interdict hisec ops. (Cant really dec shield those well)
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#82 - 2012-01-03 01:22:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Hit the nail on the head with that one Mars.

Lots of hatred that newer players aren't lining up to be targets (Or a labor force) for bittervets in EVE in my opinion. Only way I can explain not wanting to allow basic grouping with a name without the risk of gankville.

Not being able to run a POS is not enough for Corp lite? 20 percent tax?

Thank geez CCP saw how badly the old system was out of control and allowed dec shields. Should have been removed until it was redone but I can understand the need for big alliances to wardec each other to interdict hisec ops. (Cant really dec shield those well)


We don't hate new players, just game wrecking ones like yourself. You serve as a beacon for change to the wardec mechanics by your ability to bring out the worst in people. Only it won't be in the manner you hope for. It'll be those who want the war decs just to torment others and I fully endorse those players.

Most new players aren't worth corn filled poo piles. They haven't paid a month's sub yet and require extra rules written that destroy the entire nature of what EVE's meant to be. While I appreciate new players that join up and dive right in, the ones you mention, the effeminate coddle searching must have everything given to them or theyll pack up and leave types, screw em.

The community can't take serious suggestions by alt trolls. You could be a star trek dev trying to sabotage EVE's success.

en·deav·or (n-dvr)
n.
1. A conscientious or concerted effort toward an end; an earnest attempt.
2. Purposeful or industrious activity; enterprise.
v. en·deav·ored, en·deav·or·ing, en·deav·ors
v.tr.
To attempt (fulfillment of a responsibility or an obligation, for example) by employment or expenditure of effort: endeavored to improve the quality of life in the inner city.
v.intr.
To work with a set or specified goal or purpose.

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Endeavour Starfleet
#83 - 2012-01-03 01:41:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
Screw them? Because they want to call themselves a group and run with their friends and not be your next easy target?

Tell me if CCP rejoices in new players forming their first corps going down in flame after flame and casual players having to log off for a week. Why did they allow dec shielding? Why did they not instead implement these insane punishments for players not lining up to be targets?

Because that is crap. You already have the power to gank them at will but want to do it cheaply in my opinion. Nothing it preventing you from attacking anything from newer to bittervets if you can afford to lose the ship in the process. The current system isn't giving good fights. But gankfests that just destroy the image of the game and drives away potential customers.

The gankers have abused it to hell and back and now they want it back AND heavy punishments for those who don't want to stay for the fun (For the gankers only as if you win expect them to go to a merc corp for revenge) AND heavy tax for those who want to play solo or in any potential corp lite.

Heard the same stuff before they boosted concord, allowed dec shields, removed insurance for ganks. Wait I am seeing something here could the game be getting hard and mean and harsh.. For you for once? New feeling isn't it :P

You have lowsec and NPC nullsec for intense PVP opportunities. Go there or go pay to gank.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-01-03 01:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Screw them? Because they want to call themselves a group and run with their friends and not be your next easy target?

Tell me if CCP rejoices in new players forming their first corps going down in flame after flame and casual players having to log off for a week. Why did they allow dec shielding? Why did they not instead implement these insane punishments for players not lining up to be targets?

Because that is crap. You already have the power to gank them at will but want to do it cheaply in my opinion. Nothing it preventing you from attacking anything from newer to bittervets if you can afford to lose the ship in the process. The current system isn't giving good fights. But gankfests that just destroy the image of the game and drives away potential customers.

The gankers have abused it to hell and back and now they want it back AND heavy punishments for those who don't want to stay for the fun (For the gankers only as if you win expect them to go to a merc corp for revenge) AND heavy tax for those who want to play solo or in any potential corp lite.

Heard the same stuff before they boosted concord, allowed dec shields, removed insurance for ganks. Wait I am seeing something here could the game be getting hard and mean and harsh.. For you for once? New feeling isn't it :P


And when they removed insurance they gave us mega damage cheap battlecruisers. =)

Boosting Concord isn't a nerf to PVP its assurance that a sneak attack in hisec is appropriately punished and not made to easy as its completely unpreventable in 99% of situations. If you have no idea who despises you , they will catch you and kill you if they really want to.

If they choose to be in a player run corp without skills to defend themselves then yes, screw them. They signed up for war and have to deal with that choice.

Tell me if CCP rejoices in the people who have paid subs in eve since its beginning start quitting because the game is starting to suck. As it would when people like you begin to be given undue credibility.

Dec Shield isn't allowed because its endorsed its allowed because it can't be prevented in current form. And when people report it they have no choice but to say there is nothing we can do about it. But now that its there it gives justification for development time to rework the wardecs into what they were supposed to be. Dire game altering consequences for being in a player run corp.


And while im free to say what i want under my main's name your cowering like a little girl on your alt.

The community can't take serious suggestions by alt trolls. You could be a star trek dev trying to sabotage EVE's success.

en·deav·or (n-dvr)
n.
1. A conscientious or concerted effort toward an end; an earnest attempt.
2. Purposeful or industrious activity; enterprise.
v. en·deav·ored, en·deav·or·ing, en·deav·ors
v.tr.
To attempt (fulfillment of a responsibility or an obligation, for example) by employment or expenditure of effort: endeavored to improve the quality of life in the inner city.
v.intr.
To work with a set or specified goal or purpose.

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ShipToaster
#85 - 2012-01-03 01:49:40 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet you have made some claims that CCP said stuff. Please provide a source for this.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=595037#post595037

Failure to do so will get you a bullshitter tag.

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Endeavour Starfleet
#86 - 2012-01-03 01:54:13 UTC
You will find that CCP does not mind bittervets quitting and wont be forced to do something that is wrong for EVE's future because someone threatens to quit. They have heard the "Ima takinG mah 30 accounts and going h0me!" bs for years and they still buffed concord.

They aren't going to make things 10x worse for newer players who are potential customers because you refuse to go to NPC nullsec or lowsec or fit out gank ships for your PVP.

BTW just in case you forgot them (You have in my opinion)

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules


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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-01-03 01:58:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
I know its got to be sad for a emotional guy like yourself to keep posting a link to rules that you have no way to enforce. Have you noticed not one post against you has been removed yet?

There isn't going to be any censorship of counter opinion good sir.

And every thread you make or post you leave that goes against EVEs core gameplay i'll be right there to weigh in on.

Have another go to Hell, free.
Endeavour Starfleet
#88 - 2012-01-03 01:59:38 UTC
ShipToaster wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet you have made some claims that CCP said stuff. Please provide a source for this.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=595037#post595037

Failure to do so will get you a bullshitter tag.


I could care less about such tag as long as you post it as an opinion and don't violate the TOS doing it. Libel gets reported.

The topic where they allowed dec shielding in the GM topic in General. CCP allowed dec shielding because the current system is a broken mess and filled up GM backlogs.

You can pretend otherwise all you want. EVE has survived just fine without the absolute ability to force CONCORD free combat in hisec and will continue to do so in the future as FAR FAR FAR more important issues of Factional Warfare, Modular POS and Corp systems, And Sov warfare are addressed.
Endeavour Starfleet
#89 - 2012-01-03 02:02:08 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
I know its got to be sad for a emotional guy like yourself to keep posting a link to rules that you have no way to enforce. Have you noticed not one post against you has been removed yet?

There isn't going to be any censorship of counter opinion good sir.

And every thread you make or post you leave that goes against EVEs core gameplay i'll be right there to weigh in on.

Have another go to Hell, free.


I am not a mod I do not enforce rules. CCP does.

Censorship is not in play here. Violating the forum TOS with personal attacks is. CCP is not going to remove or alter a post simply because it is in disagreement.

So do please read them and keep the topics clean. This is not Jita local.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-01-03 02:07:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

I am not a mod I do not enforce rules. CCP does.

Censorship is not in play here. Violating the forum TOS with personal attacks is. CCP is not going to remove or alter a post simply because it is in disagreement.

So do please read them and keep the topics clean. This is not Jita local.



No terms violated just a troll being slapped around by the community. You have maybe 3 people that agree with you, one has all but jumped ship. The rest of the community have raped your face through 30 pages or so of threads.

You won't succeed in getting one post removed let alone manage a ban with your half ass attempt at satirically over applying the rules. You're clearly trolling. And you aren't intelligent enough to win this circumstance good sir.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#91 - 2012-01-03 23:43:27 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

I am not a mod I do not enforce rules. CCP does.

Censorship is not in play here. Violating the forum TOS with personal attacks is. CCP is not going to remove or alter a post simply because it is in disagreement.

So do please read them and keep the topics clean. This is not Jita local.



No terms violated just a troll being slapped around by the community. You have maybe 3 people that agree with you, one has all but jumped ship. The rest of the community have raped your face through 30 pages or so of threads.

You won't succeed in getting one post removed let alone manage a ban with your half ass attempt at satirically over applying the rules. You're clearly trolling. And you aren't intelligent enough to win this circumstance good sir.



Yep. In the Eve-O forums, the members smack each other around. The members smack the Devs around. The Devs smack the members around (You're Face!). It's one big, happy, abusive family. And that's why I love it here.

EDIT: And the GMs, smacking and getting smacked is part and parcel of their daily lives here.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon