EVE General Discussion

Other solution would be to give PLEX expiration time. No need to follow who has whos PLEX etc.

BUT! From the top veterans uber pro elite PVP eve online players that would be dirty attempt to take ISK from honorable PLEX speculants and move them into your pocket. "What makes you so special? " will they ask... They absolutely ignore the fact, that you suggest to move ISK from the few "special" (hello, RMT) pockets into tens of thousands pockets, who really build this game up simply by playing and therefore creating content (unlike current PLEX holders). Yes, those, who PLEX their accounts, do not pay real money to CCP, but they make game interesting for those, who do.

Not gonna happen anyway - CCP does not want it. Last few years CCP give players many reasons why to want PLEX but few less reasons, why to want ISK. Actually only citadels made people want ISK. Ship skins, skill extractors, 1 to 500 PLEX change - those are good examples of the pressure on PLEX price.

If CCP realy want player to pay 60 euro (3 PLEXes) for one dreadnout again, they need to get rid of AFK money making mechanisms (station trade, skill farms, null carriers etc) and raise minerals price for ships / modules etc. Plus create new interesting content, both PvP and PvE, so players will be happy to exchange their ships for views (C7 wormholes, anyone?) or combat experiense (combat arenas with match maker and low waiting times)

The solution IMHO is quite simply. CCP only has to offer the ability to trade isk for plex directly from CCP. This way they have final say at what the going rate for a plex is.

I mean come on if I can buy a plex directly from CCP for 2.7 mil a piece am I gonna go to a hoarder and pay 3.2 mil?

An expiration timer could work too although I'm not sure how they would go around the issue of people selling a plex on the market that has 5 minutes expiration time left in order to troll people.

I suppose they could make it work by allowing plex an expiration timer of 3 days for example. After 3 days, the plex is no longer tradable and you can either use it or see it go to waste by keeping it in your hangar forever. (pointlessly)

The price of PLEX is a self correcting issue.

If, as some claim, the ever increasing cost of PLEX reduces player numbers to any great extent, CCP will step in with whatever measures they need to to protect their bottom line.

Think of this as a basic economics problem.

Price is set by supply and demand. Supply comes mainly from people buying plex with real money in order to get in-game currency (or selling stockpiles accumulated over time). The demand comes from players looking to use plex for game time, skill farming or purchasing of stuff.

There are multiple ways to influence this balance if you want to bring plex prices down. The easiest one though is just to inject plex into the game without them being purchased.

Imagine if the rewards from the current event were 100 and 500 plex instead of 1 and 5. Supply would go up. Prices would go down. People hording plex who hear about the upcoming event dropping plex would liquidate some of their stockpile to try to take advantage of current high prices before they drop.


It's not complicated. If CCP gives away more plex... prices will drop due to higher supply.

the best solution to all this drama is simply

BAN PLEX from the fawking game.. seriously ccp this has been your #1 carrot and mistake..

screw free to play

make eve online subscription based again..


you cant afford $15/mo

then simple.. don't play and go play your stinkin free games elsewhere cheap , broke as bastards!..


get a fawking job and pay your membership like every normal gamer does.. simple as that..

sick of these crabs in the barrel always whinning and bitching, moaning and growning over some stupid game time they want for free instead of just out right earning it..

get rid of the PLEX system ccp... its the only solution.

higher plex prices forces someone to simply pay for the game like they should have, its just impulsive players that cant seem to turn away from buying the stuff all the time..

perhaps they want to mine into free game time, which I completely understand, however the market is very manipulated right now and those cartels have added so much poison to the market that its time to allow them to get punched in the face abit..

stop buying the plex..

break the market.

Dear Memphis Bass, I run level 4 missions to pay for my hapless pvp as do many, many players.

I am not sure how your solution would help me and the many players who use level 4 missions, to, you know, play the game.

PS I have never bought a PLEX to use or to sell on, I have always paid by annual sub.

Thank you.

As I said earlier... if CCP really believes plex prices should drop, they can easily simply inject plexes into the game as rewards (like the current Agency event only 100 times the plex reward).

But to be honest... they can probably achieve the same impact without actually injecting plex. A simple release from the devs stating that they believe plex prices are approaching a point where they might damage the game and are preparing a system for injecting plex into the game to be used whenever plex rices are too high.

But they probably will never need to implement it.

Why?

Well because there are a lot of people hoarding plexes. When an announcement comes out that suggests the plex price might be forced down... many will liquidate some portion of their stash to take advantage of the high prices now due to the threat of lower prices later. This should be enough to drive plex prices down without CCP doing anything. The simple knowledge that CCP has the intention of injecting plex into the market to devalue plex if it gets too high creates a market force that will spur speculators to get out when prices on plex are high to drop the plex value. This will also spur those who are considering using real money to buy plex to do so quicker when plex prices get high so they can beat CCP's intervention action that would make their purchase have less isk value down the road.

All just because people THINK CCP would inject large amounts of plex into the market.

Excuse me but what is the actual problem you are trying to solve?

No, really. Ability to Plex an account was a privilege right from the start. Or put another way, a bonus for being good at the game. If you find it increasingly harder and harder to achieve it, it simply means that many other folks got as good at you, or better.

And from economic perspective, soaring prices mean people are buying. So maybe instead of whining start selling?