EVE General Discussion

I think you are going about this wrong.

No ship class per se is going to give an outlaw / pirate "pause."

What really matters is "can that ship potentially be fitted to destroy me?" and "how fast can I take down that ship?"


Some examples:

- Regardless of the ship type I am in, if I see a person in a corvette (see: rookie ship) I will nuke it on sight.
Corvettes have minimal ability to tank and can easily be caught. There is minimal effort in it.

- I see another ship around... I will immediately do a "threat assessment."
------ What kind of ship is it?
------ What fits can it potentially make use of?
------ Is my ship geared for fighting that kind of ship and the possible fits it may have?
------ Are there station / gate guns and can I kill quicker than they can kill me?
------ How many people are in local chat and are the people in local related to this guy?
------ Do I have an exit strategy or am I going balls deep?

- If I see a capital or supercapital ship flying around in space... I will not care what ship I am flying. I will try to keep it pinned for as long as possible while screaming in corporation / alliance / allied chatrooms to mobilize and assist.
I will most likely die... but the glory man... the GLORY!!


Essentially... there is no way to truly "surprise" an outlaw / pirate (unless you have friends that are ready to hotdrop support on you via a cynosaural field).

You kind of have to adopt a "hunter-killer" attitude and operate under the guidelines of "kill what you think you can kill, run from what you know can't, die for what may be an awesome kill."


My recommendation is to join a PvP corporation (preferably one in low-sec) and learn from them.
Knowing how hunter-killers operate will help you better defend yourself and your assets.

lack of rum.
terrifying.

I had an incident today (RL crap) whereby in my haste to extricate myself from the domain of a rather crazy woman, I left an entire bottle of rum behind.

That wench is probably drinking it right now, but I'll mark that off the way a lizard marks his missing tail when he escapes a predator, for I have not been pestered by her since and I can always acquire a new bottle of rum.


Yarr and all that.

I don't think conceptually a pirate is going to fear much, but may seek to avoid clear mismatches in numbers or ships or known hot dropper scouts. Also I'd just mentally file most people into categories of pvper or bear, and not worry about the pirate distinction.

Although I understand using a corvette, I used a stratios in lowsec for basically a year without losing it (granted I don't dock in lowsec often). Its so easy to move a cloak warper around. The gallente hecate is also extremely hard to catch in its travel mode.

I use vexor and ishkur for pvp, vexor as a general purpose plated brawler, often as a warp in hammer since its one of the highest dps t1 cruisers, and ishkur for frigate roams. Stratios is another cruiser sized choice though you may find yourself being baited or chased for the shinier killmail a bit.

the answer you seek is not 42 but n+1

A high dps ship warping at 0 into a instalock camp is bad news (talos landing! got him! bubble bubble! no no bubble im in pod need warp off! ewwwwww....). A chessur at 5 am kiting your kitchen sink fleet with half people asleep or not on comms and the other half in ships with no webs is also bad.

What do pirates fear? A Cyno.... Next time they gank you deploy a fake cyno and they might just cease fire & run. Pirates love easy kills, they use shiny ships, and they fear any siduation in which they are not in control. If you drop a cyno you are throwing the unknown in their faces. Most pirates would rather leave their prey instead of risking their shiny ships.

Pirates worship their killboards So if you can pose any kind of threat which might jeopardise their kill:death ratio they will flee.

me. I mean not this me but me me.

Big plus if any corp suggested is actually recruiting...

A world without Booty.