EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'm posting this here because I feel that this thread might be of interest to new players considering what career path they will embark on. I apologize for the length of this post and thank anyone who makes it to the end and offers their opinion on the matter.


For the past six months I've played this game as a highsec industrialist. Don't get me wrong, I've been pretty good at it- Made just shy of 22 billion ISK net profit through sales, scams, and citadel/POCO real estate gaming so far this year... which I feel is extremely acceptable profit for a solo endeavor. But it's all become so boring and lonely. I've never collaborated with another player, never flown in an actual fleet battle, never had the need to even do anything undocked (mining is for scrubs).There's very little reason for me to cooperate with others in my current position as a businessman; More hands at the table means a smaller slice of the pie.

This has led me to feel like my actions in the game are completely pointless. Success is nothing without company, and I've got plenty of money but nothing to really do with it besides accrue more money. Nothing I do lends itself to a larger goal or motivation. I think highsec (and to a lesser extent lowsec) really breed this sort of atmosphere where the most truly profitable business ventures are taken alone and devoid of friends who might hedge in on your bottom line, in stark contrast to the do-or-die teamwork I've heard of from other areas of the game.

I'm tired of this and I've decided to take the plunge; I'm going to do a total respec of my character and throw off the mantle of industrialist in search of something more exciting and interpersonal. I am currently in the process of selling off my BPO collection and remaining products, as well as my citadels, and have begun investing all my available capital into skill injectors. The sum total of my current SP plus the number of skill injectors I have already purchased is just short of 40 million skill points. I have enough extractors to move around the skillpoints I already have in phases(to get around the requirement that I maintain at least 5.5 million SP when extracting). My question is this:


If you had 40 million unassigned skillpoints and wanted to have fun, what would you spend them on? Where would you go with the skills you picked and who with? What roles can I spend these points in that would be most beneficial to whatever corporation I wind up with?


Thanks a lot for your input. I'd really appreciate hearing from long-time veterans who've seen more of the game than I have, and might have a better picture of where to go from here.

You can break up a long term skill training plan into 1-year periods, and they roughly correspond to 20 million skillpoints each.

The primary reason for the 1-year period is because you can re-spec your attributes every year, oscillating between int/mem and per/wil. This maximizes the number of skill points you get per month, provided that you focus on support and core skills (int/mem) for a whole year, and on ship and weapon skills (per/wil) also for a whole year.

If you look at the skills, T2 ships require some of the core / support skills trained to 5, so if you want to unlock these ships, you need to spend some time in int/mem mode, training supports, before switching to per/wil for the ships and the weapons.

Now, your skill injectors allow you to bypass some of this early training time. My recommendation would be to put points into the support skills (engineering, navigation, armor, shields, targeting, etc. etc.). Take them to 4, take the few that are prerequisites for T2 ships to 5 (to meet the prerequisites).

You can also put some points into drones, just to ensure that you can use 5 drones for the ships that have them. And some points into Trade (50 or so orders on the market should help you sell your junk, also some into contracts so you can set more than 2 contracts, some points into infomorph psychology for clone jumping, etc.)

This kinda leaves you with none of the ships trained, and that's part of the recommendation, because you want to start with the cheap ships (frigates), and actually USE them to learn PVP before you unlock the more expensive ships and lose them.

So this plan will get your support skills ready and out of the way, so that when you unlock new ships you already have the top armor, shields, etc. for them.

It'll feel like you're basically start the game from scratch, though. Like a newbie all over again. Don't know if that's your thing.

EDIT: Corps don't really hire based on what capabilities you have; any skill or ship that's needed can easily be trained by one of their members. Recruitment happens based on personality and trust. If you want to have fun, I'd recommend trying to join a corp in lowsec, null, or wormhole space; it's not guaranteed that you'll find an excellent corp in the lower security space, it's just that high-sec corps tend to suck big time.

This game is much more about what you know and a lot less about the skill points that your character has.

You won't be successful at space combat until you get experience and once you have the experience you will know which skills will do you the most good. So just get out there and get involved and don't worry about the skill points.

You could be very well skilled in all small T1 ships in this game for a lot less than 40 million skill points. Further I think that you are better off spending isk on a large stable of disposable ships than a whole bunch of skill injectors. So you are better off ( in my opinion ) spending the isk on things that will actually get you combat experience.

Suitonia's eveiseasy youtube channel has a lot of videos of him ( an experienced PvP vet ) winning a lot of solo fights on days old alts going up against years old characters.

Buying skill points will just make you a crappy PvP pilot with a lot of skill points. Where as if you get the experience you can be a good and successful PvP pilot with very few skill points ( which Suitonia has proven repeatedly ) so it is up to you which you'd rather be.

Some Roles To Benefit Corps
• Jumpfreighting
• PVP (logi or mainline) skills depend on doctrines however cruisers are always used. (many alliances in nullsec have HAC doctrines)
• Wormholes: Exploration skills will be critical.
• Command Destroyers: Always used in nullsec.

1st: i would look for a corp to join .. maybe a indy/bit of everything corp so you can still build some stuff for the cashflow and learn new stuff
2nd: what is fun for you? missions? exploring? pvp? pve? eve has so many stuff so its not easy to say what is your eve
3rd: !!dont waste your skillpoints!! you can have mission/pve fun with T1 ships .. as long as you have good "Engeneering" skills .. a bit into a weaponsystem you prefer .. corpfriends kan help you with that .. thats what a corp is for .. help each other and have fun together
4th: do something stupid .. eve is not a 100% serios game .. you talk with friends and then go for a roam maybe .. 20 millions ship and get a battle .. boom .. lol .. trashtalk on TS .. thats all eve .. eve is what you make .. at least for me but maybe i am wrong ..

ok .. and if you like what you read here .. write me ingame or a message .. i think we find something for you

JuuR

You don't need to respec at all.

Plenty of nullsec corps will gladly take capsuleers specializing in mining, research, manufacturing, and logistics (fueling/freighting).

These roles are the backbone of any large nullsec group. And there are many others who do the same who you can share company.

Good luck in the path that you choose. If you do respec, I recommend not spending all the SP at once - just toe into new roles and invest further if you enjoy them.

Train forward,don't slide back.

Keep the skills, the loss due to diminishing returns are, well hell, if you are an industrialist I assume you can do the math yourself.

Find a corp, big or small and learn. Maybe start out in one of the big three, Karma, Brave, or Horde and learn pvp from the ground up and skill as you go. If they will take brand new players then you are a brand new pvp player with a lot of secondary skills.

from there? Rise to the top or if you decide that road is not for you at least you have a career to fall back on.

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It might make sense to extract some of the stuff as 40m in industry is a lot of SP. my industry character has something like 12m dedicated to production, science, and resource processing skills. but I agree with keeping a decent portion of it. It is always easy to do some industry stuff anywhere you end up. always good to have an income source.

For sure inject the core skills, and then work on some frig/cruiser skills A lot of affordable and accessible pvp is at the frig/destroyer/cruiser level. Figure out what you want to do and consider injecting more to get there later.

1. ISK Method (Ratting/Exploration/Mining)
2. Core Skills
3. PvP

I'd train up recon crusiers (with their respective ECM type skills), T3 cruisers, (1 armor 1 shield based) and 1 BS and go full combat, both PvP and PvE. Possibly also frigs for burner missions.