Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Supply is not infinite. Hell it isn't even perfectly elastic.

This is why the idea is terrible. The premise is not even remotely true at all.

You, and everyone else it Correct. Thank you. Yes my logic and presentation skills were impaired and i do see where it came from.

"The study suggests that strategically controlled environments, by creating product uncertainty, are able to motivate behaviors such as urgency to buy. It is further suggested that urgency to buy is mediated by emotions like anticipated regret that these retailers are able to successfully generate in the mind of the consumer. Further, scarcity communicated by the retailer threatens consumers’ freedom, thus triggering psychological reactance and encouraging them to take immediate actions like in–store hoarding and in–store hiding, to safeguard their behavioral freedom. The study also takes into account individual traits like competitiveness, hedonic shopping motivations, and need for uniqueness, and examines their influence on consumers’ behavioral responses. "

Taken from (http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1045&context=businessdiss)

I will Update the OP.

It would not be unreasonable if finding reliable ore deposits was increasingly possible with the aid of a drilling rig or some analogous structure. An ore, or rather, asteroid belt field prospecting array might as well be a physical thing, the value of which could scale with its utility.

The current system of infrastructure hub upgrade mechanics just isn't very interactive. There is the index, but that doesn't really represent an investment stratagem, outside of time. Time doesn't count because you can't save it for later, or put it on the line. It spends itself. It has to be isk.

Hostile actors need something to attack besides just players in space. Infrastructure hubs have an uniform attack profile, and so reduce the range of options available to harassing forces. They are a relic of Dominion that could stand to play a reduced role. Sov may well have some future, but it would be better if it simply synergized with deployed structures.

Having individual upgrades be physical deployables means that you can scale up the cost of them at each level of utility, as well as the cost of not defending them. They are already manufactured items, so it's just a matter of reusing some of the old soon to be obsolete POS module skins.

Any way that we can remove data available to ship sensors and move it to structures sounds good to me. We have way too much information at our disposal, and knowing too much just enables risk avoidant behavior or repetitive time/isk maximizing strategies. Nerf the players.

Great idea! not.
lets decrease mineral production by allowing only 1 full regen a week while every system is stripped clean of bots and npc fleets.
wait, while have regen at all and just let the ore market die instead

Just my two cents to keep the post going as i would also like to see some kind of change in mineral distribution.

I had an idea at one point that would "push" material around new eden. The way it is now most asteroid belts don't even get touched. The mining fleets are set up where they want to , mine out the belts and repeat.

What if mining out a belt moved or even just a single rock "pushed" those roids to other areas of the game? This would constantly fluctuate the supply in different regions of space while not being a system based solidly on a re spawn timer that is easy to farm. You may warp to a belt one day to find it devoid but then a week later it could be so full of rocks you couldn't possibly mine it all.

Obviously no idea is perfect and there would have to be some method of keeping the exact system a secret to prevent players from knowing how and where the roids are pushed around.

Why would I ever invest ISK to upgrade my space if all my upgrade do is "push" resources to someone else's space?

I can see the appeal of creating greater conflict over resources, but I don't think this really helps that very well. I think the market would adjust to this by increasing the price of minerals, resulting in people melting down ratting loot to meet the demand.

I think a better solution would be to reduce drop rates of meta modules from ratting, which would making mining more vital. You could also create localized scarcity by adjusting spawn rates of particular rocks in particular sections of space. You wouldn't want it to be absolute, where only one region of space produces a certain resource (it's been tried before and allows for some pretty game-damaging economic warfare), but you could make it so that certain resources are most common in certain parts of space.