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The Cardinal has gone missing in the pitch black station depths

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Malthus Aurelius
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2017-06-20 12:27:41 UTC
I'm not all too familiar with security protocols aboard Amarr stations, but your best bet is to begin formal inquiry with the Station's watch captain. Any guard should be able to direct you to an office. Likewise most stations have terminals where maps are readily accessible.

Prepare some form of proof of affiliation. This could range anywhere from private telecom messages between each other, to familial records, to proof of superiority within a corporation or alliance. Most Security Captains I've met normally aren't willing to launch a manhunt on an individual unless there's a legitimate claim or the wheels are properly greased if a reason is lacking.

Most stations have some sort of remote surveillance system established, and it'll range anywhere from logs of keycard and PIN usage or Biometric scanners, to to live and recorded footage feeds. The size of large station memory banks can rollback normally to at least a week of footage per camera. Due to the Amarr empire's extensive use of automated machinery and slaves, I suspect their security feeds to be top-notch, even in most industrial complexes so as to keep an eye on machine tampering or potential slave revolt.

If you provide a list of Graelyn's active crewmen and known associates, it'll give security more leads to explore and track. At the very least, it'll help reign in those AWOL crewmen if they aren't dead yet.

If you're dealing with criminal elements that may have captured Graelyn, then I recommend having one of your normal crewmen pay off a few station rats and industrial workers to keep an ear to the vents, if you catch my drift. Heightened security activity rarely goes unnoticed, and it'll send lower criminal elements scurrying. Nobody pays attention to the janitor, so they tend to see more than they let on.

Whatever you do, do NOT pay off your informants yourself. Capsuleers stand out like a sore thumb, and if you suspect he was captured by criminals, then they might be looking to grab you too for extra ransom. Don't make that bribe in ISK either, use the station's associated scrip or currency, else you're gonna paint a target on whomever you send out. He'll get tortured, interrogated, and will probably die. Most upper-level criminal elements also scan for electronic signatures and recent scarring, so using anything less than top-of-the line sub-dermal location transmitters is also a death sentence if you're using him as bait.

This is the best I can give. You can make the official queries yourself, but prepare to hire a PMC to watch your back during the duration of the search if you aren't willing to work through proxies.
Elmund Egivand
Sebestacny Circle
#22 - 2017-06-20 12:29:14 UTC
Halcyon Ember wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Guys, seriously. The old fart has been around the block a few times, to put it mildly. Unless he has very suddenly deteriorated significantly, he's more capable of handling himself than most of you through sheer experience alone. Add to this that he is a capsuleer of decent means, and his disappearance is highly unlikely to be anything but entirely voluntary and probably entirely intentional on his part.

He is one of those very few capsuleers I'd take seriously in most kinds of challenges, baseliner side of things or not. This level of concern seems strange, unless there's more to it than this.


Perhaps he owes them money.


Maybe he got sick of the bullshit and decided to take an unannounced vacation. He might be crashing in some seedy dive even as we speak.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#23 - 2017-06-20 12:39:27 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Maybe he got sick of the bullshit and decided to take an unannounced vacation. He might be crashing in some seedy dive even as we speak.
It happens.
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#24 - 2017-06-20 12:46:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
Che Biko wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Che, you're making lurid jokes at the Praefecta? Seriously?
I don't think she'd consider it very lurid. She may even appreciate it. But yes, I sometimes joke seriously.
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Right now, humor aside, we've got search teams out looking for the Cardinal. We really are kind of worried about him.
ShockedWait, what? So...Lunarisse was also joking seriously?What?


I thought my missing persons report was rather straightforward? Anyway.. Day 2.

P.S. Don't even think of trying to be my brassiere!
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
#25 - 2017-06-20 12:46:38 UTC
Pretty much what both Miz and Elmund said, why worry? He more than likely just needed a break, like all people from time to time do. He seems more than capable to take care of himself and if not theres always soft clones to rely on, unless hes one of those wierd people who think their God doesn't want them to use all technology avaliable to them to better serve him or whatever and look down on soft clones. Personally I doubt thats the case with him. He has common sense.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#26 - 2017-06-20 13:15:33 UTC
So-- to be clear, we're not that worried, or the Praefecta wouldn't be making jokes.

But ... yeah. We are, a little bit.

Amarr stations are ... well ... so....

The station we're based out of is in the heart of the Empire, where the Empire has been a spaceborne power for several thousand years. Amarrian stations here, even the ones now owned by newer entities, tend to have a lot of history. Old structures form the basis for the new, but not everything's getting used all the time.

The depths can get a little Stygian.

So, basically, the Cardinal's overdue on an urban spelunking expedition in a truly three-dimensional setting of several hundred cubic kilometers. He's capable, but, it's not like capable people never get into trouble.

We're not overly concerned (the OP is even mostly a bit of witticism at the Cardinal's expense), but ... yeah. Maybe a little.
Jason Galente
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#27 - 2017-06-20 14:34:56 UTC
I actually kind of like the guy.

I hope he ends up alright.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2017-06-20 15:13:21 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Maybe he got sick of the bullshit and decided to take an unannounced vacation. He might be crashing in some seedy dive even as we speak.


Arrendis wrote:
en-route to "party it up in Delve"


*whistles innocently*
kul Shaishi
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
#29 - 2017-06-20 15:26:32 UTC  |  Edited by: kul Shaishi
Aria Jenneth wrote:
So-- to be clear, we're not that worried, or the Praefecta wouldn't be making jokes.

But ... yeah. We are, a little bit.

Amarr stations are ... well ... so....

The station we're based out of is in the heart of the Empire, where the Empire has been a spaceborne power for several thousand years. Amarrian stations here, even the ones now owned by newer entities, tend to have a lot of history. Old structures form the basis for the new, but not everything's getting used all the time.

The depths can get a little Stygian.

So, basically, the Cardinal's overdue on an urban spelunking expedition in a truly three-dimensional setting of several hundred cubic kilometers. He's capable, but, it's not like capable people never get into trouble.

We're not overly concerned (the OP is even mostly a bit of witticism at the Cardinal's expense), but ... yeah. Maybe a little.

Could've joined a revolutionary group particularly The Syndicalist look for The slogan ,break the chains with a torch and hammer with A gear around it look for red flags in general
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#30 - 2017-06-20 15:42:00 UTC
kul Shaishi wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
So-- to be clear, we're not that worried, or the Praefecta wouldn't be making jokes.

But ... yeah. We are, a little bit.

Amarr stations are ... well ... so....

The station we're based out of is in the heart of the Empire, where the Empire has been a spaceborne power for several thousand years. Amarrian stations here, even the ones now owned by newer entities, tend to have a lot of history. Old structures form the basis for the new, but not everything's getting used all the time.

The depths can get a little Stygian.

So, basically, the Cardinal's overdue on an urban spelunking expedition in a truly three-dimensional setting of several hundred cubic kilometers. He's capable, but, it's not like capable people never get into trouble.

We're not overly concerned (the OP is even mostly a bit of witticism at the Cardinal's expense), but ... yeah. Maybe a little.

Could've joined a revolutionary group particularly The Syndicalist look for The slogan ,break the chains with a torch and hammer with A gear around it look for red flags in general


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...?

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Malthus Aurelius
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2017-06-20 16:00:29 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
So-- to be clear, we're not that worried, or the Praefecta wouldn't be making jokes.

But ... yeah. We are, a little bit.

Amarr stations are ... well ... so....

The station we're based out of is in the heart of the Empire, where the Empire has been a spaceborne power for several thousand years. Amarrian stations here, even the ones now owned by newer entities, tend to have a lot of history. Old structures form the basis for the new, but not everything's getting used all the time.

The depths can get a little Stygian.

So, basically, the Cardinal's overdue on an urban spelunking expedition in a truly three-dimensional setting of several hundred cubic kilometers. He's capable, but, it's not like capable people never get into trouble.

We're not overly concerned (the OP is even mostly a bit of witticism at the Cardinal's expense), but ... yeah. Maybe a little.


Yeesh, scratch that reliance on recorded intel. I keep forgetting where that budget of theirs goes, and security probably isn't it.

Looks like station rats are your best bet. Especially Matari kids in the slave quarters. Too young to know not to talk to strangers, and curious enough that they find good hiding spots.
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2017-06-20 16:11:01 UTC
Malthus Aurelius wrote:

Especially Matari kids in the slave quarters. Too young to know not to talk to strangers, and curious enough that they find good hiding spots.


More like 'they know by the time they can talk not to talk to anyone they don't know'.
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
#33 - 2017-06-20 16:12:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mizhara Del'thul
Don't know who this Malthus fellow is, but he's pretty much right. Spent a couple of years as a station rat - because of personal stupidity and misplaced self-loathing, not a lack of care from the authorities - and if he's not tracked by the station authorities, the underbelly rats are your best bet.

That said, they tend to be very quick to figure out what's in their best interest, and getting involved in capsuleer affairs is never that. Anything you can offer them will always be in the 'too good to be true' category, and any threat will fall into the 'another drop in the sea' category. You'll need someone who have been one, or are otherwise associated with them - certain station security will likely have formed a small symbiotic network with them - to do the actual legwork.

Simple enough matter, but honestly I don't see much point in it unless there's reason to think there's a criminal element there that is sufficiently stupid to get on capsuleer radars. I highly doubt that's the case, since whenever that's happened, there's usually been rather... pointed examples made of such stupidity. The end of entire syndicates, their loved ones, their loved ones' loved ones and so on tend to teach that lesson very sharply and I highly doubt anyone there have failed to learn it during these decades of capsuleer existence.

It should in fact be easy to verify. If the rats and lowlifes are fleeing the station as a flood of rats fleeing a sinking ship on fire, - or trying to - something may have happened that'd slightly vex a capsuleer. If not, he's probably perfectly fine.
Malthus Aurelius
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2017-06-20 16:38:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Malthus Aurelius
Not to cause offense of course, it's the truth.

I used to be a security officer aboard a small low-traffic station before I signed up for capsuleer training. Granted, I keep forgetting that dealing with capsuleers is a whole different beast than dealing with any ordinary spacefarer.

(Edit - By low-traffic, I mean low capsuleer traffic. We had a decent amount of normal haulers coming by every so often to take away ore or drop off supplies.)

But yeah, if you use enough proxies, they won't know to run away until they're already working' for you.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#35 - 2017-06-21 18:42:32 UTC
Sometimes something that has been lost is better to not be found again.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
M.A.D. Consortium
#36 - 2017-06-21 19:09:31 UTC
How does one go about losing "The Cardinal". I mean the guy has more of rock god status than Revan Neferis and he is still alive and kicking.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#37 - 2017-07-08 13:47:43 UTC
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#38 - 2017-07-08 14:27:46 UTC
Che Biko wrote:
I see the Cardinal is no longer missing. Thanks for letting us know.


Yep! What was once lost, has now been found!
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#39 - 2017-07-08 17:41:39 UTC
I asked a young man at Caille if he knew of any "lit" parties going on and I found the Cardinal about half an hour later in a region with a name that rhymes with "Belve".

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Graelyn
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#40 - 2017-07-12 13:55:24 UTC
If only that were so...

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

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