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VSM Lennelluc
EVE University
Ivy League
#1 - 2017-06-16 18:18:33 UTC  |  Edited by: VSM Lennelluc
I am kind of lost actually on what should be lucrativ or not. I have been playing for a week intensivly over 15 hours a day.. Read a lot of guide, watched a lot of video, but still not sure on how to make decent isk/hour. I've climbe recently really quick after using skill injector and i'm now naturally and legitly climbing for my futur ship the raven. I am drone oriented, as i am gallente and i like this gameplay. I will provide you multiple screenshot for you to have precise information on my caracter.

What i'm searching:

- is what i can do the most efficient with what i currently have as ship/skin,

- or if its really big, less than a week of skills training.


Informations :

Ship + Optionnal gear in bag : ( All T2 Fitted ) :

https://gyazo.com/e4a3ca18f71b8b92205bc6f9f6f80f24

https://gyazo.com/e5fce2a313b83c53981d8dd75609f85e


Skills :

http://eveboard.com/pilot/VSM_Lennelluc




Thanks in advance for your futur help..
Inir Ishtori
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-06-16 18:58:11 UTC
VSM Lennelluc wrote:
I am kind of lost actually on what should be lucrativ or not. I have been playing for a week intensivly over 15 hours a day.. Read a lot of guide, watched a lot of video, but still not sure on how to make decent isk/hour. I've climbe recently really quick after using skill injector and i'm now naturally and legitly climbing for my futur ship the raven. I am drone oriented, as i am gallente and i like this gameplay. I will provide you multiple screenshot for you to have precise information on my caracter.

What i'm searching:

- is what i can do the most efficient with what i currently have as ship/skin,

- or if its really big, less than a week of skills training.


Informations :

Ship + Optionnal gear in bag : ( All T2 Fitted ) :

https://gyazo.com/e4a3ca18f71b8b92205bc6f9f6f80f24

https://gyazo.com/e5fce2a313b83c53981d8dd75609f85e


Skills :

http://eveboard.com/pilot/VSM_Lennelluc




Thanks in advance for your futur help..

These gyazo links don't seem to open properly Ugh
Roci Nantes
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2017-06-16 19:04:22 UTC
Join new bro corp in null, fit a catalyst to salvage.. follow the ratters and make 50+mil an hour. Plex your account, inject things to pew pew or save isk for more accounts... etc etc.

The whole time train into the things you want to fly...
JC Mieyli
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2017-06-16 20:39:25 UTC
smartbombing in jita is currently the most lucrative activity
ofc the more people do it the less lucrative it becomes
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#5 - 2017-06-16 20:46:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
I took a look at your skills.

To get into a Raven, you'll need to train up your missile skills, shield skills, and support skills.

You're still quite away froms flying one good.

But if you like drones, than a Raven is not the right ship for you.

Some implants 1-10, would be very helpful.

That's all for now.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#6 - 2017-06-16 21:01:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Most efficient thing to do now? Maybe run missions, and bide your time until you can run L4s without dying.


What are you using the Myrmidon for?

You have 4 Drone damage mods, and 2 reppers in the lows. You have no resists in your load out, so the tank is not good.

Do I see a total of 260 dps? 189 is coming from drones. Your dps is very low.

I can't tell what size turrets your using, but it looks like your not using antimatter. You're probably going for range, so the dps takes a hit.

You're cap stable, you don't need to be. (but if it's taking a long time to complete missions because of your low dps, then you will end up taking a lot of damage even in some L2s.)

Sorry to say the Myrmidon fit is not that good at this time. It may be ok for L2 missions, and not at all good for L3s.

If you are doing missions at this time, drop back to a cruiser, maybe a Thorax..You'll get more dps from the turrets, by not relying on the drones, and run L2s. Or go for a Moa, or even a Ferox, as they are shield tanked.

It is good to plan for the future. So if you like drones and Caldari, go for a Rattlesnake. (I personally don't like the Rattlesnake, to much drone maintenance.)

I
-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Salvos Rhoska
#7 - 2017-06-18 07:17:38 UTC
Im a little confused why your dps is so anemic.
Cba to look into it, but either something is wrong with your fit/skills, or Myrmidon is crap.

If you can manage to fit around 400dps somehow, Id recommend running HS DEDs.
Its a lottery to find/drops but in my experience until you can run L4s comfortably, you will net more from them than L2/L3.

As to future, the Rattlesnake is almost impossible to go wrong with.
Ishtar/Gila are also a good choice if you prefer going up cruiser tree.

BCs are a bit crap. Even Sleipnirs are a bit of an underwhelming option between the benefits of cruisers and BS, respectively.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Muffinmixer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-06-19 16:09:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Muffinmixer
Run L4 missions for Sisters of Eve in Lanngisi.

Get Gallente BC to IV asap. An Omni-tanked armor Myrm with Navy Hammerheads to clean up small rats and T2 Ogres to kill big rats should be able to clear L4 missions with zero issue. Since your DPS will be on the lower side of things, my recommendation is to Blitz (fast-clear) L4s, not full-clear. Try to cherrypick missions so you get the faster ones more than the slower ones.

Also, train up Caldari Frigate V and T2 rockets ASAP, along with missiles supports to III-IV, so you can fly a garmur and run Anomic Teams and start making respectable amounts of ISK.

Edit: For omni-tank, just replace a drone damage amp for a reactive armor hardener in the lows.
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#9 - 2017-06-19 16:54:30 UTC
Id probably join FW and go plex somewhere in lowsec, 0 risk (of isk, youll die a lot) and the isk/h is decent. Also teaches you a lot about survival in this game, once your skills are up to the task go blitz lvl 4s.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#10 - 2017-06-19 21:04:11 UTC
Muffinmixer wrote:
Run L4 missions for Sisters of Eve in Lanngisi.

Get Gallente BC to IV asap. An Omni-tanked armor Myrm with Navy Hammerheads to clean up small rats and T2 Ogres to kill big rats should be able to clear L4 missions with zero issue. Since your DPS will be on the lower side of things, my recommendation is to Blitz (fast-clear) L4s, not full-clear. Try to cherrypick missions so you get the faster ones more than the slower ones.

Also, train up Caldari Frigate V and T2 rockets ASAP, along with missiles supports to III-IV, so you can fly a garmur and run Anomic Teams and start making respectable amounts of ISK.

Edit: For omni-tank, just replace a drone damage amp for a reactive armor hardener in the lows.

even with t2 heavies I think a myrm will be pretty slow at lv4s. and with their skills I'm doubting they have the standings to cherry pick. I think I'd suggest heading to simela and learning to blitz on lv3s. a myrm should be able to chew through them, although not the best choice. Drone bay is only big enough to carry one flight of heavy/sentry drones plus some utility light/med drones to kill anything that gets in too close, I suppose you could carry 2 flights, and rely on an MJD to get out of trouble. figure out which missions work best with heavies, or sentries. I think improving gun skills is overall a good move as I think gunboats are a bit more efficient for missions. Of course that gives some time to learn tactics and train skills.

garmur + rockets is a great path, should also set you up for the hawk. And all the missile support skills will help the raven if you still want to go for that. and from there you can add some daredevil skills to be able to run most of the frigate burners, with that I'd focus on the minmatar frigate skill as the web strength bonus is crucial which puts you into a wolf for another burner.

burners give very nice income, and train pvp skills.

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Muffinmixer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-06-21 16:43:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Muffinmixer
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

even with t2 heavies I think a myrm will be pretty slow at lv4s. and with their skills I'm doubting they have the standings to cherry pick. I think I'd suggest heading to simela and learning to blitz on lv3s. a myrm should be able to chew through them, although not the best choice. Drone bay is only big enough to carry one flight of heavy/sentry drones plus some utility light/med drones to kill anything that gets in too close, I suppose you could carry 2 flights, and rely on an MJD to get out of trouble. figure out which missions work best with heavies, or sentries. I think improving gun skills is overall a good move as I think gunboats are a bit more efficient for missions. Of course that gives some time to learn tactics and train skills.

garmur + rockets is a great path, should also set you up for the hawk. And all the missile support skills will help the raven if you still want to go for that. and from there you can add some daredevil skills to be able to run most of the frigate burners, with that I'd focus on the minmatar frigate skill as the web strength bonus is crucial which puts you into a wolf for another burner.

burners give very nice income, and train pvp skills.


When you can access Burners, they are so astoundingly better than regular L4s that the whole mission-running meta devolves into running Burners as much as possible and "getting rid" of non-Burner mission offers so you can keep getting Burners. The Myrm might not be the best regular mission-running ship, but it can get the job done just fine and it's one of the tankiest/fastest low-SP ships for running L4s to boot.

Since he cannot train both a better regular mission-running ship and Burner-running ships simultaneously, I feel he'll be much better served just gunning for Burners and using what he has right now for clearing the regular mission riff-raff.
Minus Delite
Magnet Construction Ltd
#12 - 2017-07-03 11:48:42 UTC
Are Burners a new thing? I have never heard of them, where can I find burner agents, I have looked at the agents in game but I cannot find any, are they from scanning?

I have been away for some time, like 4 years so a pointer would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance and I hope I am not hijacking the topic, the Op might also need or would like more info.
Muffinmixer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-07-08 16:52:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Muffinmixer
Minus Delite wrote:
Are Burners a new thing? I have never heard of them, where can I find burner agents, I have looked at the agents in game but I cannot find any, are they from scanning?

I have been away for some time, like 4 years so a pointer would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance and I hope I am not hijacking the topic, the Op might also need or would like more info.


They are relatively new L4 security missions, released in September 2014 iirc with the Hyperion expansion. To access them just talk with any L4 security agents and eventually they will offer an Anomic Agent/Team/Base mission (aka Burner) to you.

They are very profitable in that they take very little time to complete and give you roughly 40% more isk/LP compared to the highest paying regular L4 security missions. However, they are extremely dangerous and need to be treated with a lot of respect if you decide to run them.

There's a very comprehensive thread on Burners and how to run them here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=369477&find=unread