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EVENT SITES NEED FIXING [Dev Response Required]
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The Devils Cousin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2017-06-16 11:10:35 UTC
Now before anyone starts with the trolling, all I do is make tutorial videos, help new players and have these complaints first hand from over 50 players. So don't.

These events are usually first come first serve.
I get it.
However.

These sites need to be gate warp ins, key needed to activate gate, one usage, whoever kills the guardian, gets the key, gets the loot.

"Alpha & Omegas Get Rich" - you're joking right? Alphas have no chance against Omega clones in these events, they warp in, T1 cruiser for Alpha fits, start killing

Incomes MASSIVE OP DPS Cruisers & Destroyers....

Tengu
Gila
Orthrus
Jackdaw

Should I go on? You need to fix this and change the way these events work, not to mention, the constant "plex/skin/injector" rewards is proving a serious lack of imagination in event rewards.

What's wrong with...

Drone Modules for ships being put into game?
Blueprints i.e let's say concord frigates/cruisers?

Fix your events, you know damn well I love eve online, I have over 500 videos on youtube on eve online. Fix the bloody events

CCP Please Don't Do This..

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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#2 - 2017-06-16 11:25:15 UTC
The sites are done the way they are to push people to compete with each other. Eve is a PVP-game, which means you are supposed to compete with others. The sites are working as they should.

Wormholer for life.
The Devils Cousin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2017-06-16 11:27:12 UTC
Wander Prian wrote:
The sites are done the way they are to push people to compete with each other. Eve is a PVP-game, which means you are supposed to compete with others. The sites are working as they should.


Look buddy, if you run a "free to play version" of a game that is limited, any "events or holiday events" need to be able to be completed by FREE TO PLAY as well as PAID PLAYERS

Otherwise you project

"so basically unless i pay to play this game, i can't get the **** done that others can in events, **** it, back to farmville, at least i can keep up with others"

This is your response?

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#4 - 2017-06-16 11:27:42 UTC
You don't understand Eve at all. Instanced PVE is contrary to the spirit of the game.

If you feel like you cannot compete with the people in your area, then find a new area where there are less people.

Additionally, these rewards are perfect because they sometimes offer something worth getting (training accelerators and PLEX) and always off something nice-to-have (skins). This means you can have rewards in every site without making all the rewards completely worthless.

Finally, this event is also good because the rats are only a minimal distraction, you can PVP against other site runners without too much worry that the NPC's will determine the outcome of the fight.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Tiberius NoVegas
NovKor Corp.
#5 - 2017-06-16 11:29:59 UTC
I get where your coming from but i dont think the sites should be completely changed. rather i think there should be mutiple types of the event site. different types of sites to cater to different skill levels of players, best rewards of course going to the open competitive sites but also some minor rewards at closed PVE sites. this way every one gets a taste but high SP players are not completely able to run the sites with out impunity for the rare items.
The Devils Cousin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2017-06-16 11:30:49 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
You don't understand Eve at all. Instanced PVE is contrary to the spirit of the game.

If you feel like you cannot compete with the people in your area, then find a new area where there are less people.

Additionally, these rewards are perfect because they sometimes offer something worth getting (training accelerators and PLEX) and always off something nice-to-have (skins). This means you can have rewards in every site without making all the rewards completely worthless.

Finally, this event is also good because the rats are only a minimal distraction, you can PVP against other site runners without too much worry that the NPC's will determine the outcome of the fight.


that has to be the most stupid thing I have heard some one say this week.

"fight against the rogue drone swarm"

Not

"it's time for players to kick each others ass"

yet another pvp pilot not thinking before he responds

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Marika Sunji
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2017-06-16 11:31:15 UTC
Yes, if you want less competition move to a less-populated hs region (Khanid comes to mind, or Derelik) or *gasp* even lowsec. The sites do drop valuable rewards like drone salvage and drone bpcs, hell even Geckos. As for gates, keys, just lol. They are means to encourage PVP, just as Wander said, not to replicate the near-perfect safety of DED runners. Also, alphas can totally compete with omegas in the event, it just requires creativity (why not steal the loot and run? why not just bring a catalyst and put blasters in the rats' faces?).
The Devils Cousin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2017-06-16 11:32:22 UTC
Tiberius NoVegas wrote:
I get where your coming from but i dont think the sites should be completely changed. rather i think there should be mutiple types of the event site. different types of sites to cater to different skill levels of players, best rewards of course going to the open competitive sites but also some minor rewards at closed PVE sites. this way every one gets a taste but high SP players are not completely able to run the sites with out impunity for the rare items.


Aye which is my point, these sites are not made to further PVP or any of that crap, they are a DPS race to get the rats down, of which Alpha players cannot hope to compete with

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The Devils Cousin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2017-06-16 11:33:17 UTC
Marika Sunji wrote:
Yes, if you want less competition move to a less-populated hs region (Khanid comes to mind, or Derelik) or *gasp* even lowsec. The sites do drop valuable rewards like drone salvage and drone bpcs, hell even Geckos. As for gates, keys, just lol. They are means to encourage PVP, just as Wander said, not to replicate the near-perfect safety of DED runners. Also, alphas can totally compete with omegas in the event, it just requires creativity (why not steal the loot and run? why not just bring a catalyst and put blasters in the rats' faces?).


yeh lets teach new players to be abolsute bastards and blasters, really? what fi the alphas are not gallente?

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The Devils Cousin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2017-06-16 11:37:42 UTC
& please stop spouting that in-game events are to get people to fight ech other because that is absolute bs n if ccp really is doing that why have they admitted it?

Think

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Marika Sunji
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2017-06-16 11:38:28 UTC
The Devils Cousin wrote:
Marika Sunji wrote:
Yes, if you want less competition move to a less-populated hs region (Khanid comes to mind, or Derelik) or *gasp* even lowsec. The sites do drop valuable rewards like drone salvage and drone bpcs, hell even Geckos. As for gates, keys, just lol. They are means to encourage PVP, just as Wander said, not to replicate the near-perfect safety of DED runners. Also, alphas can totally compete with omegas in the event, it just requires creativity (why not steal the loot and run? why not just bring a catalyst and put blasters in the rats' faces?).


yeh lets teach new players to be abolsute bastards and blasters, really? what fi the alphas are not gallente?

Cormorant don't real, man. Also, coercer/thrasher have quietly been erased from existence and cannot be used to run the sites either. And if stealing a loot can constitutes absolute bastardy for you then I might have bad news...
Dior Ambraelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2017-06-16 11:44:27 UTC
Maybe you just weren't lucky with other players. From the 30+ sites I did on the first 2 days, maybe 2 was stolen. If there are other sites in the system they usually leave when they see the site is occupied, probably because they have better chance clearing an empty site faster, than wasting time racing with others for the last hit on the boss. And even if there are no other sites, most people left when they saw it's already being cleared. This includes Gilas, Stratioses and Gnosises (or is that Gnosii?) too.

Also, we can get Geckos too? I only got 1 plex, a few accelerators and way too many capital skins I can't use.

If you want an intelligent argument, please do, I'm up for it!

But if you want a trolling contest, I will win it by simply not participating.
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#13 - 2017-06-16 12:05:13 UTC
The Devils Cousin wrote:
& please stop spouting that in-game events are to get people to fight ech other because that is absolute bs n if ccp really is doing that why have they admitted it?

Think


Eve is build on the idea of players competing with each other. Be it PVP,PVE, trading or manufacturing. These sites are just another way to let people do that.

Wormholer for life.
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2017-06-16 12:20:16 UTC
Step 1: Get friends.
Step 2: Kill the guy.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Tiberius NoVegas
NovKor Corp.
#15 - 2017-06-16 12:57:04 UTC
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Step 1: Get friends.
Step 2: Kill the guy.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!


Step 3 is my favorite.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#16 - 2017-06-16 13:27:12 UTC
Pretty sure you complained about this in a previous event...

Work in teams. Ive been using my alpha in a pvp algos, stealing loot and killing people who steal from us.

Ccp asked us how we wanted rewards for sites to be after the serpentis event, this was our reply because in this game we like to **** with eachother.

The vast VAST majority of loot in hi-sec is worthless skins anyways, you're not missing out on much.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#17 - 2017-06-16 14:04:15 UTC
First week for these events, the rewards are valuable and Omegas are farming them for maximum ISK. Second week the market will be saturated - especially for skins and accelerators and the prices will be rock bottom. You'll be able to run the sites in peace.

Skin prices will recover, at least they have for previous event skins. Accelerators are use it or lose it at the end of the month.

Last summers Shadow of the Serpent event had assigned challenges. Presumably CCP wasn't happy with it since we haven't seen it since. Hopefully they will take a second pass when they have time - it would certainly make it easier for Alphas to participate successfully.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2017-06-16 14:25:23 UTC
These sites can be easily run in a destroyer or t1 cruiser, both of which are available to alpha pilots. Find a quiet HS region to run around in and you won't have nearly the competition. or better yet, jump in a cheap destroyer and hit up a quiet low-sec area.
the rewards are better, and even a single accelerator will pay for your ship in the off chance you loose it.
Just don't be dumb or greedy and drop off your haul at a nearby station every few sites to come back and pick up with an instawarp ship later.
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#19 - 2017-06-16 18:44:03 UTC
The Devils Cousin wrote:
yeh lets teach new players to be abolsute bastards


This is exactly what we should be doing.

And of course tutorial players can't compete with veterans, that's how the game works. Newbies are never going to succeed at anything that can be an interesting challenge for experienced players, they just don't have the skills or ISK to do it. That's just part of life as a new player.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#20 - 2017-06-16 21:50:26 UTC
I completed several sites last night in a mining barge for crying out loud. A mining barge.
One of them I even had a Nightmare compete for the site (It was even shooting at the end drone, so I know it was competing). It was just a very bad Nightmare and lost to a barge.

If I can finish sites in a mining barge & even compete for sites in one, an alpha can in a decent fit.
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