EVE General Discussion

I tend to rotate how I earn active isk because doing anything for too long gets me bored. So I kind of rotate.

1. VNI anom ratting in null. I basically get 15-20m ticks from bounties... so 45m-60m an hour. I afk salvage/loot with an alt account... so there's more isk from that but I'd probably be better off isk wise just running two VNI's.

2. Rattlesnake in DED sites. I know some people buy sites and run them... but I tend to just run the ones I get from running anomalies. The income is pretty much based entirely on how lucky you get with loot, so it's tough to quantify. Sometimes bounties + loot are in the 50-80m range... sometimes you can get something worth hundreds of millions or more.

3. Exploration (in covops mostly)... null and wh mostly, but sometimes Lowsec too (you can find more, but they pay less... so a tradeoff). Very hit an miss as others say. But big hauls can happen.

4. Mining. Not my favorite thing, but when I'm unsure how much time I'll be playing sometimes I mine at ore anoms in null because it's easy to stop quickly and log off to do other things. The isk yield isn't that high, but I do occasionally get interesting BPC drops from the rats (which I loot and salvage with an ore hauler). I got a cap component the other day that when manufactured netted me 100m+ isk after material costs.

5. Mission running. Generally on a lower skilled account. Isk is much lower (at least as I run missions... say 5-8m ticks for bounties). But good for a change of pace

6. FW. To be honest, I don't think I make that much (or anything) from this. This is where I mostly go when searching for PvP. But there are income streams... just probably less than my expenditures based on how much I suck at PvP.

I haven't run incursions. Something I'm looking into.

Then there's passive/semi-passive isk making.

1. PI - I prioritize low effort over high-income. The area of null-sec I'm in doesn't have great planets either. I end up making 3-400m a month per toon.

2. Research agents - I honestly have no idea. I have two running generating RP but I haven't bothered cashing them in in a while. Maybe 20m a month or so?

3. Station trading - With profits going back into inventory this is hard to track (as I'm doing it semi-passively and only updating orders every couple of days... I'm not spending the time to spreadsheet this). But on March 1st to try to get an idea of what I was actually making I put 1 billion in a corp wallet and started trading exclusively from that wallet to track my results. At the moment the sum of my wallet/buy orders/sell orders and pricing of inventory (which I know isn't exactly accurate) is around 3.3 billion... so if we say 2 billion profit over 3 months... call it 650m a month.

I also do some other stuff that's tough to qualify as active or passive. I do a lot of BP research but I don't cash in on it all that often. If I see T1 BPC's selling at a high price I might make a run and sell them off. If i see something to manufacture (or invent and manufacture) that has a high enough profit opportunity I'll grab it. For the most part I don't research these and spend a ton of time on them, but I do take advantage of an opportunity that presents itself.

Well... it's never good for the game to have less people in space. And if you do not rat you won't spend more time pvping. It does not work this way. And it lately feels that even less players are in space (in various 0.0 regions).

But yes, like all other "improvements" people will get used to it soon. Like people get used to live without their legs or hands... Some even participate in special Olimpycs. But no one will tell you that it was good change.

One thing that many don't get about eve is that not everyone is here for PvP.

For some, the challenge of earning isk is actually the game they play. Those market tycoons aren't just doing what they do to fuel their PLEX and PvP expenses. For them that's the actual game they're playing. And ISK is how they keep score.

For someone who's enjoyment of Eve is solely about the pew-pew... then yes, buying plex is the best way to get isk without taking time away from blowing up spaceships.

For me... I never buy money in any game. But that's based on what I enjoy about games... which is the progression and building of my character in the game. That's true when I play games like Civilization or Sim City (both franchise are some of my favorites). That's true in single player RPG's for me like the various elder scroll games... and it's true in MMORPG's I play as well.

Probably why I never got into first person shooters.

I actually make money salling items that I find around New Eden. Only a fraction of my income comes from bounties for pirates. The majority of my ISK comes from other players.

Not really. Without him the forums will get boring soon.