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What exactly did CCP nerf and what's all the fuss about?
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2017-06-15 11:11:46 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


CCP is nerfing the right thing this time. In the past CCP usually nerfed only symptoms of a problem while ignoring the actual cause.

For example: ...

CCP's fix: Get rid of fighter assign for EVERYONE. I never gate camped once, I used fighter assign to rat and I got nerfed too.

Another example: ...

CCP's fix: Add frigs to Forsaken hubs, slowing them down for EVERYONE who rats. I did forsaken hubs with sub caps and didn't make 500 mil per hour and still got nerfed

THIS TIME CCP got it right. This time they looked at the game, saw that it was FIGHTER SQUADRONS...


LOL. So because you weren't nerfed this time (maybe because you don't fly a carrier in PvP?), they got it right. But all the other times when they affected someone and something else but the actual problem, and you were affected too, they got it wrong. Right?

Fighter squadrons don't **** ISK all over New Eden, exploding the money supply. Nerfing them makes as much sense as nerfing any other ship or weapon in the game. CCP is being STUPID AND LAZY with this so-called "fix." And in your short-sightedness, and in your lust to see abusers get what's coming to them, you are supporting the nonsense.

I'm not being affected either. I don't live in null sec, and I don't fly a carrier. I also don't want a bunch of goons living in Delve raking-in however many trillions of ISK per day/week/month they've been raking-in. But I also recognize you don't stupidly nerf a ship because you don't know how to fix or manage the fracking economy. IT'S STUPID.

REASONS TO NERF A COMBAT SHIP OR WEAPON IN PVP

1) The ship or weapon is too strong in PvP.

2) See #1.

REASONS NOT TO NERF A COMBAT SHIP OR WEAPON IN PVP

1) Economy.

2) PvE.

3) Just because you feel like it.

4) It's raining outside.

5) Etc.

CIRCUMSTANCES TO CONSIDER BEFORE NERFING SHIP/WEAPON IN PVP

1) PvP

2) See #1.

CIRCUMSTANCES NOT TO CONSIDER BEFORE NERFING SHIP/WEAPON IN PVP

1) Anything else but #1 above.

Yes but on the plus side CCP have harvested a bumper crop of tears from Null sec players. If only they could sell them.

Shame they haven't figured out that that their destruction of every other part of the game in favor of Null is the reason they had to go free to play.

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
Salvos Rhoska
#102 - 2017-06-16 05:35:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
As Teckos pointed out, the isk printing from bounties has exhibited so enormous growth in some sectors that something had to be done.

Sure, CCP could have nerfed that income in other ways, or more targettedly, but this is what they chose.

Their chosen solution is inelegant, blunt and with collateral damage to carrier PvP, but it is what it is.

At this point all you can do is HTFU, adapt and deal with it.

The anoms/sigs themselves have not changed. Now you simply must run them in another way or with another hull.
Im no carrier expert, but I think peoples concerns about impact on carrier PvP is exaggerated.

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