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No they don't, and before you start talking about mission bounties as of a few months ago 92% of all bounties came from Null. Oh and don't forget that over 50% of the commodities isk faucet was also coming from Null from Overseer effects.

So that 30 trillion or so spike in the last 6 months or so is almost certainly entirely carrier ratting.

I am sure it has nothing to do with alliances recruiting Alpha chars and instructing them to get into VNIs and AFK rat. Those Alphas end up making money by ratting all day, having a begginer's patience to endure an activity that is still new to them for hours on end...and later move into Ishtars because its the same mechanic they know, but with better profits. Only two days ago I was speaking to one such character who was expressing his regret for picking Amarr instead of Gallente...because he "could not be lazy with drones" as his fellow mates with which he joined the game.

Not to be missunderstood: Carrier ratting reward has increased with capital changes (from 35 to 50 mil on average), but at the cost of decreased survivability and a complete inability to multibox or be AFK while doing it. Thus, all alts that were AFK ratting in carriers became useless or passed into Ishtars while carrier mains got rewarded for their dedication to being active and high-APM new mechanics of carrier ratting.

Don't even get me started on the fact that PVP nerfing due to PVE reasons is another rage-inducing display of stupidity to begin with.

Instead of coming up with constructive ways to deal with the issues, devs have been dropping heavy handed nerfs on their go-to scapegoats ever since those initial changes. People have finally had enough and that's the reason this post is raking in hundreds and hundreds of angry replies to CCP's reasoning.

**** dude, I just realised, I have been acknowledged by CCP themself that I am the top 1% of the 1%. That's it, I have really won EVE this time I can unsub and move on, thanks CCP.

Yes, well this is kind of the main reason behind the long grind for a carrier / super. If players would want to make less isk, they would have opted for a VNI or an Ishatar or a BS.

I should really post on my main, never intended to post on him, went from the wrong browser.

This doesn't change that 1% of 1% (in any given day 30 people?!?!) is somehow responsible for 90% of the amount? Is it feck. The problem is and has always been Ishtar/VNI because they are so efficient at ratting almost constantly, there's very little downtime between sites as they warp fast and you can just sit there all day with a beer and/or book and just rat. The thing is, CCP want us to believe that the problem is carriers/supers but you're earning realistically 4 times the amount of an ishtar (My ishtar can happily pull 20-25 million ticks and I rat while paying attention, I just fit lazily)

But the implication being that there's only 4 times the number of ishtar's/vni's to carriers? I call nonsense. I would be surprised if the number of Ishtar/VNI's to Carriers was less than a 100-factor differential. Now assuming there is 100 time the number of VNI's/Ishtars to Carriers/Supers and assuming a 3 times amount on average (Carriers pull in around double and supers seem to get around 4x so averaging at 3 times across the board is not an unreasonable assumption), Ishtar's/VNI's are responsible for 33 times the amount (100 times the number of them/3 as they earn 1/3 of the amount on average).

Now, CCP has refused to engage with the community and hasn't provided the Raw data on which they have based these changes. They also haven't provided any reasoning behind why the specific numbers were chosen for the nerf and have in fact tried to deliberately present overinflated figures and the highest possible number they've seen in the dataset, completely out of context to try and support a badly thought-out, knee-jerk response.

There is nothing wrong with ratting in a carrier, if the ISK faucet needs nerfing then do it with diminishing returns on bounties as has previously been mentioned. It'll hurt the AFK ratters more and provide the required dampening of the ISK creation that CCP are worried about.

T3 The cruiser with all modules costs 340, after your announcement of its "improvement", it has significantly fallen in price. The price of Tengu fell from 125 to 111. If you believe only graphics (like you do) - it turns out that a big danger for EVE - is the developers. They all do so badly that only announcements of their actions harm more than inflation.

The problem is not the production, the problem is the lack of destruction.

I find it funny how few super pilots are desperately trying to make non-super pilots follow them in their protest against CCP taking their isk mountains.

Have you actually tried carrier/super ratting or are you just trying to be edgy? Unlike drone boats which scale quite well (especially in the north west with amazingly convenient rats) each player can fly a single super or carrier to rat in.

At least the nerf will not affect PvP as fighters are already worthless in TiDi.

There are no PvP capabilities, damn things just don't work in TiDi. Last time around the only way to fire a new volley (after the initial one) was to recall the fighters and then relaunch them, get one off then repeat. At least the MWD is stuck so they move back and forth reasonably fast.