Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Dreads should be cheaper. SBs cost the same as t2 frigs, while killing BS 2 sizes up. Dreads should cost the same as HACs, while killing caps 2 sizes up. Oh, and give them covops, remove siege penalties.

If there's anything that could be had from what Goose wrote, its that maybe these new mini-dreads could be proportionate in price to a marauder. Just like Stealthbomber is to Assault Frig.

Maybe making small capitals is the wrong idea. Instead, make a battleship version of the tier 3 battlecruiser. Battleships with capital gun(s) and penalties to balance them accordingly. Less HP? Siege mode? Slow as an orca? You tell me.

It's not bitching about cost.. I can build dreads and profit from the raised market price, or sell off all mine that i bought for less than a bil, so no beef there.
The increase in cost of dreads further lengthens the gap between BS and dread. Along with the gap of dps, it makes even more sense to put an increment inbetween the two.

As it was, 120m for a tier3 bs in proportion to approx 900m-1bil for a dread was pretty proportionate along with the rest of the ship and price increments. Now 2b is just opening doors for improvements....

Edit: Inappropriate parts removed, please stay polite. CCP Phantom.

It doesnt have to be able to hit battleships. It's called a hypothetical idea that can use tweaks not uninformative bashing. If it could hit battleships, I'd suggest it be as frail as the tier 3 battlecruisers are in proportion to other battlecruisers, thus balancing it.

Even if it did only allow more poor players to get in on larger fights, whats horrible about that? means that Test Alliance would be able to have much more pilots using these as well as everyone else.

Actually, they were implemented to kill caps. Read old devblogs. But they're now only used for POS bashing due to suckage.

As goose said.. for fighting dreads. It would be good in a dread killer fleet, a bunker bashing ship, undefended pos basher.. use your imagnation. As is, mom's and titans are the way to go for cap killing but thats not a door open to everyone. You can bring bhaalgorns and neut the **** outta them.. or a an assload of ships and out-dps them. It would just add more variety. If the cost was high, it wouldnt be unbalanced. People with money but fewer numbers could fly these and shoot up lowsec dreads etc.
You could use them like a swarm of frigates on a battleship to swarm a titan.. or a mothership?

Any of these things seem absolutely horrible or game-ruining to you? Any of them seem unapplicable to goonswarm or test alliance but only applicable to highsec noobs or poor people?

Well not everyone has shoals of hurricanes or prefers them.

What might you suggest be put in that gap between bs and cap? Im just interested in ideas, not looking to bash yours.

The game really doesn't need another 'anti capital' ship class, seeing as pretty much everything above a cruiser is already effective in the 'anti-capital' role.

In the least, its more enabling for small bodies of people who can raise the money for it.

Should we all be forced to join up in large alliances? I dont think so. I'd like an option to shoot at dreads without needing "shoals" of pilots, but within reason. Give them penalties so that we need to work them into the right situations and they arent just some free for all high dps boat that anyone can use for anything, anywhere.

If some guy wants to show up in a lone dread to shoot at my customs offices or pos, I wanna hop in something with a small handful of my buddies and go take him out. Maybe I dont have 2bil to spend on a dread, or one close enough, or Im more worried about getting hot dropped and want something more escapable.

I would consider "me plus nine buddies" a "handful". 10 blaster/pulse/ac fit BS (or hell, Tier3 BC) ships will spank said dread, and still have the ability to GTFO if someone lights a cyno.

Why are you *anywhere* in empire where your dread(s) aren't in jumprange of your POS?

edit cuz i suck at quoting tonight