EVE General Discussion

Inb4 some serious spin-doctoring about why this is not a blantant pay2win ad and absolutely no problem.

plex isnt just for game time
its for nes store too
wait... its always been sold for isk
not sure why selling it for isk is suddenly a problem
what else were you supposed to do with it after you bought it

I find granular PLEX to be much more convenient for turning my RL money into ingame wealth. They're much more liquid, and I have so many more options.

+1

I think the real issue here is a dislike of the ideas of RMT and the perception of creeping Pay to win. I don't share those concerns as much as others, CCP had to do plex to combat gold seller types and plex IMO is one of the things that kept people playing beyond the point where they might have outgrown paying for a game no matter how cheap it was.

And CCP isn't selling gold ships/ ammo so as long as that's the case CCPo making some cash on skins and skill extractors etc is fine too CCP is a company not a charity, at the end of the day if one doesn't like a company seeking ever more revenue , then 'one' should stop playing games made by for profit companies and start playing games made by charities (of which there are none lol).

I might not like some of the things CCP does but complaining about them making money would be dumb on my part.

I've been against PLEX as implemented since the beginning.

For one reason. That was the day "cold " and "harsh" ceased to have any meaning when describing the game. Lose a ship? No problem, just buy some ISK and replace it.

It was especially noticeable as a character seller. I'd have to wait for some guy to have his couple of hundred dollar PLEX purchase go through so he could buy the character I was selling. So much for the struggle in this harsh universe.

As for justifying corporate RMT as a solution to unofficial RMT...IT'S STILL RMT! It's completely the wrong solution.

Mr Epeen

Sure, It's all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows now...

At least now they fixed your "I have to wait for hours to sell a character in this FAST PACED ACTION ADVENTURE GAME", right? So you were behind that change? :D


Then they have to IMMEDIATELY stop charging for anything as I get omega benefits for using my euros instead of playing the game like it's supposed to, right?

PLEX is like Jenn aSide, we all know she is just evil but we like to have a go at here once in a while and hug and whisper in her ear. *hug*

plex is:

a) the life blood that keeps tons of accounts running year after year

b) a necessary evil to battle real RMT, it makes CCP money and it means people who want to make use of the service don't have to deal with shady Chinese websites that steal your CC info

c) a way for short attention span (or busy irl) people to achieve their long term in game goals


Plex isn't the problem, it's a solution to issues that would otherwise result in much bigger problems.

PS: (I added this AFTER typing the main body :P) Please pardon the wall of text below.

RMT may be distasteful to some (hell, it is to me, even, to some extent - I certainly don't respect players who can only overcome in-game challenges by throwing money at them - but hey, it's those players who allow the rest of us to save some real money, and I'm OK with that!) but I would MUCH rather that the (real) money go to the company providing the game (and thus supporting it, helping to feed the devs and keep them in ample caffeine to keep delivering said game for us to consume) than to some Chinese or Russian parasitic gold-farming multi-multi-multi-box setup (the ethnicity is, in fact, irrelevant, that's just where most of them gold-sellers operate from, as far as I'm aware.)

I previously played an MMORPG that, years ago, switched to a F2P model with "Gold Packs" for game time - these work much the same way as PLEX, except they're used EXCLUSIVELY for 30 days of unrestricted game for an account and its entire stable of characters (akin to Alpha and Omega access distinction), and when this was implemented, illicit gold-sellers went into decline. For starters, they had to lower their prices to compete with the legitimate RMT, AND there's the factor that many players don't mind paying a little more if it goes to the providers of the game instead of to a parasite, meaning that the black-market gold-sellers had to reduce their prices even more drastically (of course, there are always those players who will selfishly go for the "best deal" possible without regard for the bigger picture.) With all the dis-incentives for black market gold sellers, many simply left (presumably they went to farm greener pastures), while the game provider also now had more incentive to crack down on the remaining ones. End result: ultimately good for the health of the game, as the game provider makes some extra revenue, while the players' experience is largely unaffected, and in fact is even improved by the drastic reduction of in-game spamming by gold-sellers.

This'll blow your mind: I don't care.
And I'm certain a lot of other players don't care either.

BTW you reminded me of Gevlon with your post.