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strongest passive (ehp) tank wanted

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Dasmallredboat
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2017-06-06 16:21:53 UTC
i want to send some small but valueable items through highsec via autopilot.

is there any ship that can fit a stronger passive tank than a bricked freighter has?

i'm looking for ehp only, not shield recharge
BRONY VICTOR
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2017-06-06 16:23:33 UTC
probably proteus until it gets ne...rebalanced
Eleanor Roscommon
Bleu Femme Felis
#3 - 2017-06-06 21:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Eleanor Roscommon
How much is small stuff?

To get "freighter size" ehp, you may want to look at an Orca. An Orca can be fitted to have about 500,000 ehp

In some smaller than Orca ships, you might be able to get about 150,000 ehp.
AgentFruitfly
FlyinPenguin Enterprises
#4 - 2017-06-06 21:51:54 UTC
does damnation still get 300-500k ehp?
Wendell Stamps
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-06-06 22:02:15 UTC
Haulers Channel tank is impenetrable.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2017-06-06 22:11:21 UTC
600k:

[Orca, tank]

Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pith C-Type EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Shield Command Burst II, Shield Extension Charge
Shield Command Burst II, Shield Harmonizing Charge
Large S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
[Empty High slot]

Large Transverse Bulkhead II
Large Transverse Bulkhead II
Large Transverse Bulkhead II


327, overheats to 500k:

[Damnation, tank]

1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener
Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener
Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener

[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

327k, 500k overheated:

[Proteus, tank]

1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener
1600mm Steel Plates II

[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer

134k, overheats to 416k:

[Impel, full tank]

1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus X-Type Armor Thermal Hardener
Syndicate Damage Control
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System

[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

So.... options.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#7 - 2017-06-06 23:17:00 UTC
probably better off using a instawarp + warp speed fit interceptor and just manually doing it, or setting up a courier contract.

passive buffer orca 470k
passive buffer bowhead 550k
passive proteus 300k+
passive obelisk 499k

damnation is probably another option, but cba to check it

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Muffinmixer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2017-06-07 15:43:48 UTC
Get a sub-1s align Hecate for high/low-sec ferrying of small volumes (>450 m3): Put in Propulsion Mode, get 4 Domination istabs in the lows and a 5% agility hardwiring in slot 7. Make sure you have Evasive Maneuvering and Spaceship Command both at V.

This thing doesn't get a massive 500k+ ehp tank but you cannot physically shoot it, point it, or shipscan it. The only things that can touch this ship are smartbombs, doomsdays, and bubbles. And also pilot error, naturally.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2017-06-07 21:13:53 UTC
Muffinmixer wrote:
Get a sub-1s align Hecate for high/low-sec ferrying of small volumes (>450 m3): Put in Propulsion Mode, get 4 Domination istabs in the lows and a 5% agility hardwiring in slot 7. Make sure you have Evasive Maneuvering and Spaceship Command both at V.

This thing doesn't get a massive 500k+ ehp tank but you cannot physically shoot it, point it, or shipscan it. The only things that can touch this ship are smartbombs, doomsdays, and bubbles. And also pilot error, naturally.


Four Dominations won't do it, even with a 5% implant. 5% plus two SS plus two T2 does the trick. Leaves three rig slots for HVOs. Mids can fit a decent shield tank in case of smartbombs. Pretty much love this for a quick courier:

[Hecate, courier]

Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#10 - 2017-06-08 03:05:58 UTC
Dasmallredboat wrote:
i want to send some small but valueable items through highsec via autopilot.


Autopilot is always a nono. You WILL get ganked.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#11 - 2017-06-08 20:11:07 UTC
I would use something like this:

[Viator, nadoproof]
Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Medium Transverse Bulkhead II
Medium Transverse Bulkhead II

only 41K EHP before any implants are added, but it can warp while cloaked, and cannot be cargo scanned so instead of a bunch of catalysts, you only really have to worry about nados on the undock, a Nado can only do about 12K alpha with max everything, so you would need at least 4 nados willing to take a chance on a hauler that might well be empty. On top of that, if you use instadock and instaundock bookmarks which you really ought to, there should never be a chance to lock you anyways.

If you want to autopilot in something brick tanked, if it is worth ganking, it will be ganked, just actively pilot a blockade runner or actively pilot a DST with the cloak/MWD setup.
Tam Arai
Mi Pen Rai
#12 - 2017-06-10 16:34:32 UTC
so you want to do the stupidest, most dangerous thing in the smartest, safest way possible?
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#13 - 2017-06-11 03:06:55 UTC
Tam Arai wrote:
so you want to do the stupidest, most dangerous thing in the smartest, safest way possible?

it really is quite silly isn't it

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Ragnar Danskjold
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2017-06-11 05:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ragnar Danskjold
Tam Arai wrote:
so you want to do the stupidest, most dangerous thing in the smartest, safest way possible?

Yeah didn't you guys just lose a ten bil freighter?
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#15 - 2017-06-11 14:08:09 UTC
Freighter ganks prove the folly of the single larger shipment idea especially if you are going to autopilot.
Multiple ships that are faster to align and have faster non-warp speeds carrying smaller loads are a much better idea since they reduce the risks of a single ship being caught and even if one is the many smaller loads minimizes the losses.
Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2017-06-12 10:54:00 UTC
all you need for a Highsec Instawarp Hecate is "nothing"...
Instawarp by default (in speed mode)...

But yeah, sure...put a Inertia Rig in it..."just in Case" :D
Atomeon
Unbound Reborn
WE FORM BL0B University
#17 - 2017-06-12 19:44:27 UTC
He asked for PASSIVE Shield tank, So, here it goes.

[Mastodon, Mastodon Passive Shield Tank]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Gistum B-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
Gistum B-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier
Gistum B-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

114k EHP, Keep the Mid slots as it is, and if you want warp speed or align time make some changes.

Good luck if you survive your first trip P
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#18 - 2017-06-12 22:08:02 UTC
Dimitrios Bekas wrote:
all you need for a Highsec Instawarp Hecate is "nothing"...
Instawarp by default (in speed mode)...

But yeah, sure...put a Inertia Rig in it..."just in Case" :D


Aligning in a time period between 1 and 2 seconds is *almost* entirely safe. Aligning in less than 1 second is ENTIRELY safe. There's a difference.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#19 - 2017-06-13 01:36:02 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:
.....only 41K EHP before any implants are added, but it can warp while cloaked, and cannot be cargo scanned.....


honestly, the scan immunity is quite possibly the single most redundant role bonus in the game.

If a triggerhappy ganker can get a lock on you, they can (and will) point and shoot you.

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#20 - 2017-06-13 23:42:52 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
ValentinaDLM wrote:
.....only 41K EHP before any implants are added, but it can warp while cloaked, and cannot be cargo scanned.....


honestly, the scan immunity is quite possibly the single most redundant role bonus in the game.

If a triggerhappy ganker can get a lock on you, they can (and will) point and shoot you.

except most of the time they wont because they have no idea if you are a profitable target or not. And you can buffer tank a BR to tank 1-2 tornado shots, which is more than most are willing to throw at you. I've tried to bait them a few times and they haven't ever taken a shot at me.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

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