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L4 sec missions ship and fit options ?
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Cathablia Sarain
Broke-Ass Agency
#21 - 2017-07-21 05:00:59 UTC
sucks that you dislike battleships and even minmatar..

in that .. i use the typhoon T1 battleship.

armor, missile drone setup.

and with a MWD it's quite fast, and to the point i can't see myself in a other ship.

it's really can cover any type of npc space.. it can hit all the damage softness times.

with the T2 setup i have.. and 1 deadspace armor rep.. i can tank about 550-600 dps depending on damage type..
about 1k dps with missiles and drones..

and the setup is maybe the best lazy gameplay i can make.. i can sit one spot and let the range of the missiles do the work and drones for smaller targets..

and with sentry drones.. if they are in range.. they mostly get oneshot..

and after clearing a room.. i just mwd over to the next gate.. or back to station.. and with a Loot'o'mat 5000.. i dont really need to fly around or drag the wrecks myself.. and can salvage the loots myself quite fast..

the typhoon has a mwd speed of 1.2k'esh
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#22 - 2017-07-22 06:35:45 UTC
battleships are still slow even if you can get 2k m/s with a MWD on... in terms of locking time, warping speed, acceleration and align time. Machariel is a bit better, but you probably still need to speed fit it to match some of the faster cruisers.
Maybe try a blingy T3C then? and probably decline those missions requiring you to kill a lot of stuff.
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
Gluten Free Cartel
#23 - 2017-07-22 20:30:30 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
battleships are still slow even if you can get 2k m/s with a MWD on... in terms of locking time, warping speed, acceleration and align time.

20-minute ticks tell different story.
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#24 - 2017-07-23 05:01:07 UTC
hmskrecik wrote:
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
battleships are still slow even if you can get 2k m/s with a MWD on... in terms of locking time, warping speed, acceleration and align time.

20-minute ticks tell different story.


depends on the mission.
Fluffy Moe
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2017-07-23 06:22:00 UTC
I gave up on it. Frankly speaking, the amount of time it takes to train up battleships + their respective heavy guns or whatever else systems to be efficient, I'm not even sure I will be playing this game that long. Just not worth it.

I will give some burners a go, as the skillset is largely the same except ship skills (all assault and racial frigs at 5) as the other stuff I do. And level 5 frigs and their weapons and tank at lvl 5s are no where near as time consuming as level 5 battleships. We'll see how it goes.

And if I get to a point where I can't self sustain my PvP losses of off NPC kills while paying a basic sub (ratting, missions, whatever) then I guess its time to uninstall and call it quits.
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
Gluten Free Cartel
#26 - 2017-07-23 10:29:54 UTC
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
hmskrecik wrote:
Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:
battleships are still slow even if you can get 2k m/s with a MWD on... in terms of locking time, warping speed, acceleration and align time.

20-minute ticks tell different story.


depends on the mission.

I'm talking about full clears obviously. :)
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
Gluten Free Cartel
#27 - 2017-07-23 10:31:36 UTC
Fluffy Moe wrote:
[....] the amount of time it takes to train up battleships + their respective heavy guns or whatever else systems to be efficient, I'm not even sure I will be playing this game that long. Just not worth it.

There is nothing preventing you to train them WHILE you fly lighter stuff. It's your choice anyway.
Cross Strike
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#28 - 2017-07-24 18:46:14 UTC
I love my ishtar... started using it more than my kronos lately. I pick and choose my lvl 4 missions tho. I mostly use my ishtar on single pocket missions
guigui lechat
the no fock given
#29 - 2017-07-30 10:57:35 UTC
Fluffy Moe wrote:
I gave up on it. Frankly speaking, the amount of time it takes to train up battleships + their respective heavy guns or whatever else systems to be efficient, I'm not even sure I will be playing this game that long. Just not worth it.

I will give some burners a go, as the skillset is largely the same except ship skills (all assault and racial frigs at 5) as the other stuff I do. And level 5 frigs and their weapons and tank at lvl 5s are no where near as time consuming as level 5 battleships. We'll see how it goes.

And if I get to a point where I can't self sustain my PvP losses of off NPC kills while paying a basic sub (ratting, missions, whatever) then I guess its time to uninstall and call it quits.

if you think training for BS is too long, dont train for burners.
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