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To: The Developers (Orca version for Individual mining)

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Fifty Three
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-05-30 00:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Fifty Three
Please can you make another Orca that is resilient than the Skiff/Procuer to Mine, for increase survivability especially in Low and Null sectors?
Rorqual, which has more survivability than skiffs and Procurers, is very expensive, so the orca version that is suggested is somewhere in between for us individual miners.

-All Role bonuses will be stripped away
-Every Industrial Command ship bonus is also strip away
- It will NOT have any mining bonuses like Mining Barges and Exhumers
- It will cost 1.5 times more than the standard command Orca.

- It will have 2 turret slots for Strip Mining turrets
- Same structural strength, armour and shielding etc. of a standard command orca.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#2 - 2017-05-30 01:04:53 UTC
Not that I am against it, but just give it time, troll bombs and haters are on the way on this one.
mkint
#3 - 2017-05-30 02:41:36 UTC
interesting. No, wait, the other thing. tedious. existing options can already deal with rats, and no amount of tank will save a mining boat in PVP. Meanwhile using unbonused ships for mining are novelty and niche at best (maxed out mining hyperion and rohk are awesome because they are hilarious, not because they are good.)

If you find you're dying too much in your mining boats, maybe learn to EVE better, rather than try to get the devs to work around your personal failures.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
grgjegb gergerg
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2017-05-30 02:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Max Trix
Fifty Three wrote:
Please can you make another Orca that is resilient than the Skiff/Procuer to Mine, for increase survivability especially in Low and Null sectors?
Rorqual, which has more survivability than skiffs and Procurers, is very expensive, so the orca version that is suggested is somewhere in between for us individual miners.

-All Role bonuses will be stripped away
-Every Industrial Command ship bonus is also strip away
- It will NOT have any mining bonuses like Mining Barges and Exhumers
- It will cost 1.5 times more than the standard command Orca.

- It will have 2 turret slots for Strip Mining turrets
- Same structural strength, armour and shielding etc. of a standard command orca.

Seriously? I've seen your fits, you use hull reppers. You lost this Skiff at about half the EHP that it should have been fit with.

*snip* No Killboards ISD MAX TRIX *snip*- CCP cannot help you, if you fit things this badly. And it doesn't matter if you have a friggin Titan fit with strip miners, if you go mining in lowsec, alone.

This is an impressive fit, as it is incredibly useful for showing people what not to do.

  • Active hull tank
  • Active armor tank
  • Passive shield tank, with no extender
  • No rigs
  • Mining in lowsec (I'm going to assume alone)
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2017-05-30 02:51:54 UTC
Why would I use it if it doesn't have any mining bonuses and costs half a Rorqual anyway? If my procurer can mine better for 1/60th of the price, why use a gimped Orca? Why not just use the Orca since it can mine about as much as a procurer anyway?

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#6 - 2017-05-30 09:44:04 UTC
ok so there was a similar post a while back......

1.) Use the search function.
2.) To re-iterate my former response in that said post........

What is to keep someone like me and my friends from just using a fleet of Orca's with those strip miners, and also have one providing boosts?

Please learn to EvE, or Mine, or whatever before posting on subjects you simply do not have process power to understand.

PS: I will gladly accept another 1 million to my Bounty level from you for posting again sensible but negative comments to your thread.
Or do i have to report for being redundant?
(as i am i unable to report for low IQ content)
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#7 - 2017-05-30 11:23:22 UTC
In dangerous space you can fly stealthy - expedition frigate; cheap - retriever where a couple of loads of ore will pay for the ship; or protected as part of an alliance mining op.

If you mine alone in an expensive ship - you will die. You will also die if you mine alone in a cheap ship but it doesn't hurt because the ship has paid for itself and the insurance covers most of the cost of a new one.
Axure Abbacus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2017-05-30 12:29:41 UTC
The Orca already got a revision that make it useful for solo mining. 300k to 400k EHP on a Sub-capital hull and mining rigs.

I would suggest sticking to the T1 hulls until you flush out your core fitting skills. Try this fit out. Agress often. Insure your ship. Meet interesting, new people in belt and loot their wrecks.

[Procurer, pvp mining]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Small Energy Neutralizer II
Strip Miner I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x1

It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.
Cade Windstalker
#9 - 2017-05-30 13:30:38 UTC
Fifty Three wrote:
Please can you make another Orca that is resilient than the Skiff/Procuer to Mine, for increase survivability especially in Low and Null sectors?
Rorqual, which has more survivability than skiffs and Procurers, is very expensive, so the orca version that is suggested is somewhere in between for us individual miners.

-All Role bonuses will be stripped away
-Every Industrial Command ship bonus is also strip away
- It will NOT have any mining bonuses like Mining Barges and Exhumers
- It will cost 1.5 times more than the standard command Orca.

- It will have 2 turret slots for Strip Mining turrets
- Same structural strength, armour and shielding etc. of a standard command orca.


So, just for a start, there is no amount of tank that is going to save your happy aft-quarter in Low and Null. Unless you have someone on the way to bail you out you're just making the other side take more ammo to kill you.

There is literally zero point in the ship you're asking for here except as a better AFK miner in High Sec, or a better hauler, neither of which is needed or asked for in your post.

If you want to go mining in Low or Null as a solo player your best bet is a Venture or Prospect, or a regular Mining Barge or Exhumer and mining while aligned while watching local and D-Scan.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2017-05-30 17:05:10 UTC
Fifty Three wrote:
Please can you make another Orca that is resilient than the Skiff/Procuer to Mine, for increase survivability especially in Low and Null sectors?
Rorqual, which has more survivability than skiffs and Procurers, is very expensive, so the orca version that is suggested is somewhere in between for us individual miners.

-All Role bonuses will be stripped away
-Every Industrial Command ship bonus is also strip away
- It will NOT have any mining bonuses like Mining Barges and Exhumers
- It will cost 1.5 times more than the standard command Orca.

- It will have 2 turret slots for Strip Mining turrets
- Same structural strength, armour and shielding etc. of a standard command orca.



What possible reason could anyone, anywhere, ever have to fly this thing? A skiff will mine better, with 1/3 of the EHP for a billion ISK less. A Procurer will do it for a tenth of that, and both of them will be just as survivable in nullsec.


Meaning, fit right you can make a solo pvper go away, or a microgang of interceptors/t1 destroyers/other small things. More than that, and you're not going to walk away in a barge, an exhumer, or in a gimped mining orca.


The trick to surviving when someone drops a gang on your miner is not to let someone drop a gang on your miner, not to somehow think you can tank them with orca level ehp in nullsec. That's just silly.
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2017-05-30 17:13:15 UTC
Removed a post for Personal Attacks.

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Old Pervert
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2017-06-01 16:32:18 UTC
Just gonna put this out there. Fifty Three in a rorqual would be downright hilarious. Or... at least... the killmail would be.
grgjegb gergerg
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2017-06-01 18:04:41 UTC
Old Pervert wrote:
Just gonna put this out there. Fifty Three in a rorqual would be downright hilarious. Or... at least... the killmail would be.

Omigaw, yes. Someone sell that man a Rorq!
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2017-06-02 11:34:53 UTC
Fifty Three wrote:
Please can you make another Orca that is resilient than the Skiff/Procuer to Mine, for increase survivability especially in Low and Null sectors?
Rorqual, which has more survivability than skiffs and Procurers, is very expensive, so the orca version that is suggested is somewhere in between for us individual miners.

-All Role bonuses will be stripped away
-Every Industrial Command ship bonus is also strip away
- It will NOT have any mining bonuses like Mining Barges and Exhumers
- It will cost 1.5 times more than the standard command Orca.

- It will have 2 turret slots for Strip Mining turrets
- Same structural strength, armour and shielding etc. of a standard command orca.


Nope. Go for the Rorqual.

-1
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#15 - 2017-06-03 03:17:27 UTC
Yet again, you don't need to say "to the developers". That's literally the point of this section of the forums.

Do you preface every message in game in local chat with "to the people in this system"?
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#16 - 2017-06-03 13:15:17 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Yet again, you don't need to say "to the developers". That's literally the point of this section of the forums.

Do you preface every message in game in local chat with "to the people in this system"?

Silly you, I am surprised you have not figured this one out yet.

By stating "To the Developers" he is hoping that "We the players" will ignore his terrible ideas and not respond to them.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#17 - 2017-06-03 14:46:12 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Removed a post for Personal Attacks.



Why haven't you removed his for trolling? If you look at his history he picks topics he knows will not start a constructive discussion

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
grgjegb gergerg
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2017-06-03 17:25:24 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Removed a post for Personal Attacks.



Why haven't you removed his for trolling? If you look at his history he picks topics he knows will not start a constructive discussion

Because he just might be unintentionally hilarious, and it provides a good vent for people?