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Do you actually enjoy playing EVE? [Poll]

March rabbit
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2017-05-27 07:50:35 UTC
Unlike Jenna, i don't need to keep my narrative. So.....

EvE is like all the things you do because you like it overall an got used to it. Like smoking, cycling, walking... Most of the time you don't 'have a blast' (lol) but once in a while you get it and you understand - "this is why i'm here".

Couple years ago i liked to cycle out of the city. You know: every weekend around the year from Saturday morning to Sunday late night into forests, snow, marsh.... With bicycle and lots of needed stuff on your back.... And every time i asked myself "why the hell i'm here in this ****** weather under rain and heavy wind, walking with my bicycle and stuff on my back instead of sitting in bar or playing computer games in my home"? You know this feeling: you already hate it all and you only on your way out of the home.... And you cannot turn back and need to finish it.....

And the result is this: the moments when you returned home and unpack your stuff, upload photos and talk everyone around "do you know where we've been last weekend?"....

That's EvE. Most of the time you hate it and feel bored but there comes moment and ....

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#22 - 2017-05-27 07:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Been there, seen it all. Bittervets are that particularly lovely sort of players who feel insecure about either staying in the game or leaving. Most likely, they fall into a mental trap, like the notorious sunk cost fallacy, which makes them thrash in agony on chat channels, comms, and forums instead of hitting the door quietly. They contribute nothing of use to the conversation - all they do from now on is spoil the game for the people who have to read or listen to their crap.

I tried reasoning with bittervets in the past, and it's always futile. At this point, they're beyond sympathy and consolations - there's only a simple choice: either leave already or stay, but stop bitching about the damn game. After all, we here are all supposed to be adult human beings making rational choices. If you refuse to make that choice for yourself, it's better for you to GTFO with a little help from chat channels' moderatiors.

It's that simple: if you don't like the game, uninstall it. If you don't feel like playing right now, go play or do something else and return when you do feel like playing EVE. If you start regretting the money you've sunk into the game, then you're a dumbass, because you should have written off that subscription money into entetainment expenses long ago and forgotten about it the day you did it.

It's also funny how certain bittervets talk about "toxic comunity" while acting like arguably the most toxic kind of people - energy vampires.

EDIT: It always sucks to see good people go, by the way, but, as they say, the only stable thing in life is change, and I've learnt to take comfort in that. In fact, really nice people, the kind you really enjoy talking to, always leave quietly, oftentimes not saying as much as a single word in order not to inconvenience anyone. The only thing I regret about them leaving is not getting their emails, Facebook links, or whatever just to stay in touch.

Agent of the New Order

Live by the Code - die by the Code.

The Voice of Highsec

Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2017-05-27 09:39:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
Eve has its moments of grace. But they stay docked most of the time.

p.s. Don't believe the dark side when they say "Join us! We have cookies!".
It's not cookies, it's blue donuts.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato

Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#24 - 2017-05-27 10:08:41 UTC
Aurelius Oshidashi wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
...who on earth would keep playing a game they didn't enjoy? If someone's reading these forums they like the game...

That was my first thought too. But if you're an idiot, have mental problems or just can't control your own behaviour you might turn out doing things you dont enjoy while nobody forces you.

Thats one of the reasons why psychologists have a job I guess.

We are our own worst enemies is a popular cliche that sums up masochistic tendencies that are self imposed because many people truly believe they deserve such.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#25 - 2017-05-27 14:11:51 UTC
It's been 14 years and I hate this game with a passion. But I still log in, even though all I do is lose ships in the background while shitposting on the forums or ranting in various channels...

Epitome of the concept of bittervettism they call me..

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#26 - 2017-05-27 15:04:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Jerr
I playing since 2013 and I always return to Eve.

My solo pew pve/industrial has taken a new step this year since I finally joined my first public fleet, from a twitch player, and did gang pvp, the lowbear in me is fully satisfied to pew other players and dying in cool explosions BearTwisted
I have even more fun doing logi than the pew.

There is always something fun to do in Eve, even "solo"; you can pass years to do the same things again and again, until one day something happens Lol

People outside (aka not Eve players) can say whatever about the Eve community; I find it diversely more alive and active than for other online games.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2017-05-27 15:38:39 UTC
I've had a complicated history with eve. been playing off and on since 08 and have had many false starts.

but no matter how many times I've burned out, or rage quit I just keep coming back for another go at things.

This most recent go around has so far been by far the most successful, I learned from the previous lessons and set out to completely change how i played the game. to the point of extracting my old character and making a brand new one.

the three biggest things i've changed are 1) I stopped chasing the almighty isk, and started seeing it as a means to the goal of having fun rather than the goal itself. 2) I stopped playing solo and joined a corp, having people to chat with, and more importantly, other people out there finding content has made all the difference. and 3) I moved to null-sec, which while scary at first, fixed the iskflow problems that had always "held me back" practically overnight.
Brutus Caphus
#28 - 2017-05-27 16:25:42 UTC
Definitely positive emotions for me. The great thing about EVE is that I come away with a sense of accomplishment and progression even if I can only play for 30 minutes. I even feel a sense of progression when I CAN'T play because I make sure my skills are queued up! I have also rediscovered my love for science fiction, and EVE has an amazing background.
JC Mieyli
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2017-05-27 16:51:34 UTC
i only play it because i havent made my own space game yet
but when i do
its gonna wipe this game and every other space game off the face of the earth and space
Vortexo VonBrenner
#30 - 2017-05-27 17:17:08 UTC
Djsaeu wrote:
I find that I am not enjoying EVE as much as I used to. I am still here and I am still doing what I do. Just the other day I had a very easy kill, and just let it go. I was thinking, hmm, oh well, not worth the ammo. I am even starting to avoid the people in the Corp. I think it may be time for a change.

Start over again with nothing as a completely new character. Your perspective on the game will change drastically and you may find you enjoy it again. Don't give your new character anything, give all your stuff away so you "burn your ships when you reach the new land" - there is no possibility of going back, you are totally committed to your new course of action then.
(I would be glad to help you in this regard by gratefully accepting anything you might wish to give me btw)

Of course you will still have your knowledge about EvE, but things will change completely for you. When you are not spacerich an amount of isk that was not even a small thought for you before you will consider when choosing T1 guns and equipment. Find a completely new corp with no connections to your previous group.

It will change EvE for you.

Dan Morvis
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2017-05-27 18:53:58 UTC
Yes, absolutely. I love it so far.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#32 - 2017-05-27 22:32:55 UTC
I'm a masochist.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#33 - 2017-05-27 23:49:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
dread,fear,anger,hatred,bitterness and resentment and sheer joy.
the only other thing i can think of that elicits all of these is love.
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#34 - 2017-05-28 01:02:50 UTC
Dravos, unless you posted the link somewhere else as well, those forums are probably the worst place to ask. People who visit forums, prefer forums over the game :3

I'm 50/50. couple months enjoyment, couple months lack of.
Chopper Rollins
#35 - 2017-05-28 04:25:04 UTC
i wanted to ragequit every week of my first six months.
i don't believe masochist is a personality type, or even trait, it seems to me masochism is a valid pattern of behaviour in an environment that treats you in a consistently shoddy manner. Masochism allows a person to give meaning to that ill-treatment and to derive a sense of self from it.
Then after about a year of diving into the worst possible situations, competency and confidence start to build. Suffering becomes less important and achievement takes it's place. Only then can losses really sting.
Bittervet status is reached when you don't care anymore and deride those who do, or when you can only enjoy ruining the enjoyment of others. This is differentiated from toxic kiddie status by the way the attitude is arrived at and expressed.
Coming up to 8 years now, still not bitter, still not Gud™@eve.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2017-05-28 04:38:21 UTC
At this moment i can say nope. But i need to grind isk so before i get fun i need isk. I can buy my way up but come on....
Galactic Rangers
#37 - 2017-05-28 06:09:35 UTC
For me it's been always very simple, Love EVE, have loved her since we first met, I'm not going to leave her ever, i'll be with her even at her worst because everything she has done for me i could never repay.
Hal Morsh
#38 - 2017-05-28 13:15:28 UTC
I spend less per month on EVE than I do other inebriations.

IS that a word? Spellcheck doesn't seem to care.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Express Hauler
#39 - 2017-05-28 14:00:46 UTC
No. The only activity I have enjoyed were incursions - till the fleets implemented automated queue facilities where one can spend a hour or two waiting for a spot in strictly 40-men fleet.

So I'm waiting for CCP to discover ~10 years old technology of scaling public quests where people may join and leave at any moment without affecting each others' rewards.
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#40 - 2017-05-28 14:06:13 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Somtimes. Especially in the beginning EVE felt like work and unfun for me. Burned out a few times, took half year breaks. Then my corp left the FW meatgrinder (The attrition wars are real), joined a bigger pirate alliance where there are different kinds of fleets every night and now I just play approx one-two hours a day joining the strat op or random fleet. Right now I actually enjoy playing. I have learned to focus more on the social aspekts of EVE, communicating with people, instead of trying to be best of anyting.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker

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