EVE General Discussion

Been there, seen it all. Bittervets are that particularly lovely sort of players who feel insecure about either staying in the game or leaving. Most likely, they fall into a mental trap, like the notorious sunk cost fallacy, which makes them thrash in agony on chat channels, comms, and forums instead of hitting the door quietly. They contribute nothing of use to the conversation - all they do from now on is spoil the game for the people who have to read or listen to their crap.

I tried reasoning with bittervets in the past, and it's always futile. At this point, they're beyond sympathy and consolations - there's only a simple choice: either leave already or stay, but stop bitching about the damn game. After all, we here are all supposed to be adult human beings making rational choices. If you refuse to make that choice for yourself, it's better for you to GTFO with a little help from chat channels' moderatiors.




It's that simple: if you don't like the game, uninstall it. If you don't feel like playing right now, go play or do something else and return when you do feel like playing EVE. If you start regretting the money you've sunk into the game, then you're a dumbass, because you should have written off that subscription money into entetainment expenses long ago and forgotten about it the day you did it.

It's also funny how certain bittervets talk about "toxic comunity" while acting like arguably the most toxic kind of people - energy vampires.



EDIT: It always sucks to see good people go, by the way, but, as they say, the only stable thing in life is change, and I've learnt to take comfort in that. In fact, really nice people, the kind you really enjoy talking to, always leave quietly, oftentimes not saying as much as a single word in order not to inconvenience anyone. The only thing I regret about them leaving is not getting their emails, Facebook links, or whatever just to stay in touch.

We are our own worst enemies is a popular cliche that sums up masochistic tendencies that are self imposed because many people truly believe they deserve such.

I playing since 2013 and I always return to Eve.

My solo pew pve/industrial has taken a new step this year since I finally joined my first public fleet, from a twitch player, and did gang pvp, the lowbear in me is fully satisfied to pew other players and dying in cool explosions
I have even more fun doing logi than the pew.

There is always something fun to do in Eve, even "solo"; you can pass years to do the same things again and again, until one day something happens

People outside (aka not Eve players) can say whatever about the Eve community; I find it diversely more alive and active than for other online games.

Definitely positive emotions for me. The great thing about EVE is that I come away with a sense of accomplishment and progression even if I can only play for 30 minutes. I even feel a sense of progression when I CAN'T play because I make sure my skills are queued up! I have also rediscovered my love for science fiction, and EVE has an amazing background.

Start over again with nothing as a completely new character. Your perspective on the game will change drastically and you may find you enjoy it again. Don't give your new character anything, give all your stuff away so you "burn your ships when you reach the new land" - there is no possibility of going back, you are totally committed to your new course of action then.
(I would be glad to help you in this regard by gratefully accepting anything you might wish to give me btw)

Of course you will still have your knowledge about EvE, but things will change completely for you. When you are not spacerich an amount of isk that was not even a small thought for you before you will consider when choosing T1 guns and equipment. Find a completely new corp with no connections to your previous group.

It will change EvE for you.

I'm a masochist.

Dravos, unless you posted the link somewhere else as well, those forums are probably the worst place to ask. People who visit forums, prefer forums over the game :3

I'm 50/50. couple months enjoyment, couple months lack of.

At this moment i can say nope. But i need to grind isk so before i get fun i need isk. I can buy my way up but come on....

I spend less per month on EVE than I do other inebriations.






IS that a word? Spellcheck doesn't seem to care.

Somtimes. Especially in the beginning EVE felt like work and unfun for me. Burned out a few times, took half year breaks. Then my corp left the FW meatgrinder (The attrition wars are real), joined a bigger pirate alliance where there are different kinds of fleets every night and now I just play approx one-two hours a day joining the strat op or random fleet. Right now I actually enjoy playing. I have learned to focus more on the social aspekts of EVE, communicating with people, instead of trying to be best of anyting.