Intergalactic Summit

I think the point is being missed somewhat here.

Everybody is perfectly aware that no capsuleer has the ability to actually force any other capsuleer to change their beliefs.
Nor can they force any other capsuleer to do, say, or think anything other than what they wish to.

They are, however, perfectly capable of disrupting activities, blowing up ships or infrastructure, and generally being a huge pain in the ass.

That's pretty much the limit of capsuleer power as far as ideological conflict goes. Unless someone is a particularly charismatic orator of course.

Yeah, I think I gotta agree with Mokk on this one. Just as a basic matter of logic, you haven't actually defined what it means to 'oppose' the Sani faith. So, without providing your criteria for that determination, you're leaving it wide open for any reasonable interpretation of 'opposing'—which, since we're talking about an ideology, can be as simple as 'speaking out against it'.

And you've said that anyone who 'opposes' the Sani faith will be hunted. That's a statement of active intent, that you're going to do something. So in order for them to be hunted you have to hunt them. So, the onus is all on you, at least until and unless you clarify what exactly constitutes 'opposing' the Sani faith in this scenario.

You said you'd be hunting. So either you do the hunting, or you should've put this whole thread in 'Idle threats'.

Put a comma in there, Samuel, after "loyalists", it makes the sentence so much easier to read.

Who is this man?

Tell me, if I said I'm hunting Guristas, would it make any sense to insist the Guristas have to come down here to Delve?

You made the claim about hunting. That means you have to go where the prey is, or you're just blowing hot air.

So, if "Opponents to the Sabik faith at large will be hunted", how do you define an 'opponent to the Sabik faith'?

Clearly, it isn't people who take a public position that the Sabik faith is an empty and meaningless crock of fedo feces. Because the Sabik faith is an empty and meaningless crock of fedo feces—and you aren't hunting me.

Except, you know, you didn't say threats would be hunted. You said opponents would be. So, yeah, kinda coming across as an idle and empty threat here. What, gonna go hunt Leshrac? Napkins? Ooooooh so tough, being willing to do what literally dozens of other folks are already doing against less than a dozen pilots.

And let's put this idiotic idea of 'trying to destroy the faith in space' to bed. The 'faith' as you put it, is an ideology. You cannot destroy an ideology with weapons. Can't be done. Kill its followers, you just make martyrs. Time and time again, humanity's proven this.

The Sabik faith is clearly empty and worthless, because every last one of its followers and adherents are sniveling little cowards who like to talk big, but won't even dip their toes into a pool that might have real predators.

Are you hunting, or are you hiding? Because you claimed to be a hunter, but you sure don't act like one.

As our Senior Captain Laerise Fierarch used to tell me, if you believe you can't change things with lasers, you aren't using enough lasers. Or something to that effect.

An amendment: It also includes a select group of people who don't frequent highsec and do have the ability to fight back. These groups can be brought up whenever someone accuses them of only going for soft targets, but aren't a risk because, frankly, they can't be arsed and have far more important things to do than chase wartargets around kspace, including but not limited to "literally anything else but that". If people bring this up, you simply deflect with silly excuses such as "we don't have to hunt the people we said we'd be hunting".

Is that more accurate?

Ascy, I'm about one step away from packing as many of the biggest guns New Eden knows of as possible onto a single ship, so I can appreciate the appreciation of firepower and liberal application of violence where applicable. This however doesn't change a rather important fact for us capsuleers: We can't kill an idea, largely because we can't kill the people holding them.

I could easily set my deathclone somewhere within your reach, undock, die, undock, die from now until the station fell apart and you would not be able to break the continuity of my mind nor my ideas. Given sufficient time and maybe someone to pay for the ammunition, you could potentially - eventually - destroy most of my assets if I for some unfathomable reason decided to bring them into harms way and even if that impossible eventuality occurred I would still be perfectly able to work my way back up to fully operational within a fraction of the time it took me to get here now.

Capsuleers are physically unbreakable in this regard. Wardecs? Perpetual campaigns against us? Doesn't work. Worst case scenario and most of Eve turns against us, we can just pack up and go somewhere else, starting anew.

Your lasers are quite literally incapable of even targeting the ideologies, philosophies or ideas I carry and have no effect on them. No matter how many of them you managed to scrounge up.

Now, I've used the saying "If you can't solve your problems with violence, you didn't apply enough violence" before, but it's to a degree rather tongue in cheek. It works when your problem isn't practically immortal and easily capable of rebuilding anything you destroy.

Quite possible, but like I said in another thread, these days most satire, parody or even just jokes get taken seriously by a lot of people so it's not unreasonable to lay things out in full for those people.