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Ore research proposal-Orca Class Variant

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Axure Abbacus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-05-20 22:22:44 UTC
I see a convergence of opportunities with the retirement of aged star-base structures. As an accomplished star ship engineer I have had the privilege to construct many of the empires ships of the line, Gallente advanced hulls, as well as many capital systems.

From what i have built, I see that the Gallente SIN black ops subsystems would be compatible with the Orca Hull as well as the Kronus subsystems. The addition of the Compact Jump drive and support systems for the Jump Portal Generator's impact on the overall functionality should be minimal. The bastion support systems would be more challenging but not inconceivable. Working with Duvolle Labs and CreoDron would be the most complicated stage of the project.

The proposed variant would be an excellent addition to the Prospect and Endurance.

Best Regards to the Ore Engineering Team.

It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.

Lugh Crow-Slave
#2 - 2017-05-20 23:55:28 UTC
My eyes can't role hard enough


The rp forums are that way
Cade Windstalker
#3 - 2017-05-21 00:06:52 UTC
You need a balance and gameplay rationale, not a lore one if you want something added to the game.

You've presented none of that and all I'm getting out of this is a ship that would either be hilarious OP for High Sec or too expensive to be useful compared to the available alternatives.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#4 - 2017-05-21 00:17:53 UTC
From what i can tell he wants a cheaper jf
Axure Abbacus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-05-21 00:43:20 UTC
Thank you all for the feed back. You make excellent points.

What I am proposing is an idea there are BLOP capable mining vessels, namely, the Prospect and the Endurance Tech 2 mining frigates. It would make sense that at some point to have a dedicated mining bridge ship for the fleet concept.

Lugh Crow-Slave seems to have covered most of what I am getting at here.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=492683

Thank you all.

Fly safe





It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.

Rhaegon Aesir
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-05-21 10:05:26 UTC
Just going to point out here that there is only one blops-capable mining ship, and that is the Prospect. The Endurance is not blops-capable and cannot fit a covops cloak.
Axure Abbacus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-05-30 14:56:29 UTC
I am going to retry to present this idea. I propose Releasing a ""Navy" Orca hull as a dedicated Black Ops Bridging carrier capable of supporting extended operations. The Orca is one of the most used ships for moving fun around, Gankers, WH crews use the Orca. The current black ops line requires one Black ops pilot to gimp fit his ship. From what I have found on kill boards, its typically a cargo fit Sin. Converting a PVP ship into a support vessel could be less fun than having an actual one.

The first reason to consider it is that it has always been a fun ship capable of holding 7 fit Catalysts or 12 Stealth Bombers. It’s the same Rig class as the Black Ops and the same Mass as an armor tanked Blops. It could launch Ridiculously Large Stealth bomber fleets to blap Shiny Faction capital ships. There will be mining in Null Sec, at moons, for goo or no more T2 items. There are, actually Systems outside of a 6 jump range from Jita and maybe, a black ops mining fleet may discover causing a KIll mail? Lastly, for lols and The Molok had a dedicated hold for 100k Corpses because the DEvs hate RP'ing.

Killer Whale: Faction/Special edition
Orca:
Industrial Command Ships bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to ship cargo capacity and ore hold
3% bonus to Mining Foreman Burst Strength and Duration
1% bonus to Shield Command Burst Strength and Duration
10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield
-10% reduction in drone ice harvesting cycle time
Role bonus:
100% bonus to drone mining yield
-25% reduction in drone ice harvesting cycle time
100% bonus to drone damage
400% bonus to Remote Shield Booster optimal range +Add Armor RR
90% reduction to effective distance traveled for jump fatigue
Can fit three Command Burst modules
50% bonus to Command Burst Area of Effect Range

Add Role Bonus:
95% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator and Covert Jump Portal Generator powergrid requirement
50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator and Covert Jump Portal Generator CPU requirement
80% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator liquid ozone consumption
50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator duration
• Can fit Covert Cynosural Field Generator and Covert Jump Portal Generator
• No targeting delay after Cloaking Device deactivation
• Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds

Add to the build cost: 4 Capital Jump Drives, 1 Drone Cargo Bay, 2 Capital Power Generators, 10 Advanced PI Commodities (Recursive Computing Modules, Broadcast Nodes)

Slot layout: 6H (+3), 5M (+1), 2L
Fittings: 1200 PWG (+240), 550 CPU (+120)
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 30,000 (+19,250) / 7000 (+100) / 45,000 (-1000)
Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 20 / 40 / 50
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 35 / 35 / 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 8000 (+3800) / 1200s (+400) / 6.67 (+1.42)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 60 / 0.26 (+0.1) / 150,000,000 (-100,000,000) / 54.07s (-1.38)
Warp Speed: 2 au/s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 200 (+125) (+25/50) 75/250
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km (+10) / 75 / 7 (+5)
Sensor strength: 30 Magnetometric (+15)
Signature radius: 1000
Cargo Hold: 30,000 m3 -5000
Ore Hold: 150,000 m3 (+100,000) (-15,000 for Fuel Bay)
Fleet Hangar: 40,000 m3
Ship Maintenance Bay: 400,000 m3 +21,500 m3
Cost: ~700 mil ISK +250 mil
Max Yield: ~1,400 m3 per minute + drone travel time
Max DPS: ~800 dps (1000 DPS)

It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.